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I read about this in yesterdays paper and feel it needs to be made more public. It's a harrowing story that has been on my mind since I read it. THIS is happening NOW in the EU! What are those over-paid pompous tossers in Brussels doing about it? I make no apologies for cut'n'pasting the article from a website. The link is at the bottom of the article.

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Ordeal of the caged Czech children
The Sunday Times (UK) 6/13/04 Justin Sparks

Posted on 06/12/2004 by saquin

THE screaming starts at 11am sharp each day in the basement of the Raby care home near Prague. That is when a little boy called Vasek Knotek is locked in his cage.

For a brief period each morning Vasek, who is about five, is let out to be fed and washed. But once his cage has been cleaned he is forced back inside.

Vasek shakes the iron frame with all the force he can muster and tears at the wire mesh that confines him. His screams of anger ring through the building. In an adjacent cage his friend Michal puts his hands over his ears to shut out the noise and bursts into tears.

There is nothing in the children’s cages to comfort or console them — no teddy bears or toys and certainly no gifts from home. Vasek’s parents live less than a mile away, but according to staff they have not visited once since they brought him in as a baby with beautiful blond curls. He has a sister who does not even know he exists, they say.

Nor do the nurses show Vasek any warmth: they refer to him by his surname and cannot say whether he is four, five or six. The human contact in his daily routine consists mainly of a quick wash, nappy changes and perhaps a head shave.

The only distraction for Vasek as he stood forlornly in his cage last week in a room of bare whitewashed walls and fluorescent lights was the sight of a man in his late seventies lying on a bed opposite, shaking, sedated and apparently close to death.

Vasek and Michal are among five mentally handicapped children discovered in cages by an undercover Sunday Times reporter who posed as a prospective social worker and carried a concealed camera during three visits to Raby, a two-hour drive from the sophisticated city of Prague.

Many others — from babies, toddlers and teenagers to frail elderly people — exist in cages across the Czech Republic, which is regarded as one of the most progressive countries among the 10 that joined the European Union last month.

In another home visited by an undercover reporter at Slatinay in east Bohemia, a 14-year-old girl died two years ago when a bar at the top of her cage fell on her head and fractured her skull. Instead of scrapping the cages, the director bought more modern ones. Small children were inside them last week.

They are also used in neighbouring Slovakia and in Hungary, where a recent medical report on a man with spina bifida concluded that he would have learnt to walk had he been given therapy, but was unable to do so now because he had grown up in small cages.

The disclosures prompted condemnation this weekend from medical and legal experts and a demand from a senior British member of the European parliament for urgent reforms.

“I am gravely troubled by this medieval cruelty and I intend to champion the rights of these torture victims at the highest levels in Europe and in Britain,” said Baroness Nicholson, who has campaigned successfully to improve conditions for children in Romania. “Now that this has been brought to the world’s attention, it has to be stopped immediately.”

It was a measure of the Raby home’s sensitivity to outside opinion that Michael Balassko, its head of therapy for the past 18 years, warned the undercover reporter that she must not tell anyone what happens there.

She had asked for temporary work at the home, ostensibly to help her to decide whether to pursue a career in care. But after three days she protested at the conditions.

“What you see and hear while you are here is completely confidential,” Balassko had said. “You say nothing to anyone.” The director of the home even asked her to sign a document that would have legally bound her to remain silent. She declined.

The home is on three floors. The residents with the mildest disabilities — a low IQ, epilepsy and a degree of autism — live at the top. A man with a sign round his neck that says “Director” spends hours pretending to fill out reports.

Yet even here there are cages. The reporter saw a 30- year-old man with learning difficulties being punished — for no reason that she could discern — when a nurse suddenly ordered two other people to put him in a cage.

One seized him by the arms, the other by the legs and he was thrown in. Although usually docile, he kicked and screamed in rage when the door was shut. The others laughed at him and shouted that he would be sent to live in the basement next time.

The basement is somewhere nobody would choose to live. From the ground floor, where residents wander the corridors aimlessly, it is approached by a flight of stairs.

Those who descend are confronted first by the stench of excrement and bleach, then by the paralysing sight of a human menagerie.

There are three children in separate cages in the first room. A tall boy of 15 called Pavel stands up and stretches his hands through the bars in an effort to touch anyone coming towards him. Next to him is another teenage boy, rocking backwards and forwards and occasionally clutching the bars of his cage.

Opposite is Martin, a vulnerable-looking boy of about nine, who moves inquisitively to the front of his cage if someone is near. There are few novelties and hardly any visitors for the 19 residents of the basement.

The older boys make less fuss about the daily 11am lock-up, as if they are conditioned to the routine. It is the younger ones who resist, struggle and protest.

Vasek and Michal, the smaller children, are in the room next door. Their cages consist mainly of mesh rather than bars but the effect is the same. If their cries are deemed too loud, the nurses close a soundproof door and their voices are silenced.

The nurses appear unconcerned. “This job doesn’t bother me any more,” said one as she changed a nappy. “I’ve got used to it.”

According to the staff, Vasek and the other children have to be in cages because they are hyperactive and would hurt themselves if they were out.

“These kids need medical care, not therapy, and that basically means feeding them, washing them, keeping them clean,” said Balassko.

However, British experts who were told of the Raby regime said there was no benefit in keeping the children in cages. Richard Newton, a leading neurologist and board member of a European association of experts on mental disability, responded with outrage.

“Putting a child who has no mental handicap in a cage will make him aggressive, depressed, angry, difficult to control,” he said. “A mentally handicapped child will react in exactly the same way.”

Indeed, the reporter found the children playing calmly on the floor after breakfast on her third visit while the cages were prepared for their return.

It is not as if the children are consigned to an ageing asylum for lack of money to pay for decent facilities. Four years ago the 90 or so residents were moved into a purpose-built state-funded complex, complete with a swimming pool and art room. But their cages came with them.

As well as the mentally handicapped children, there is a group of five toddlers with cerebral palsy, one of whom — David — spends most of his time behind bars at Raby.

The children in cages are sometimes fed through the open doors and those who are able to move around are allowed out to play in the basement during cleaning.

“Sometimes we take them out for a breath of fresh air but only one at a time because otherwise they’re too much to handle,” said a male nurse. “If they misbehave, we give them an injection.”

What the children are injected with and how often was not clear. But according to groups lobbying for better conditions, the use of sedatives in institutions housing mentally handicapped and mentally ill residents is commonplace.

Raby is symptomatic of a deeper problem in the Czech Republic and elsewhere in central Europe. Many families feel ashamed of mentally handicapped children. Most are therefore kept out of sight, often in cages welded around beds and measuring just 8ft long, 3ft wide and 4ft high.

More than 70,000 children and adults live in Czech “social care” and psychiatric institutions. The labour and social affairs ministry says no records are kept of the number of cages but one lobby group says they account for 10% of capacity in some homes.

This group, the Centre for the Development of Social and Health Care, claims that more than 400 residents of one home in Jihlava, south of Prague, have been kept in cages for varying lengths of time in the past year.

The lobbyists have been encouraged by the Czech Republic’s entry into the EU to demand the same standards of care that apply in western Europe. They say there is no place for cages in a relatively prosperous country that was led until recently by Vaclav Havel, the former dissident writer who knew only too well what it was like to be locked up during the communist era.

A social affairs ministry survey concluded last year that care homes were breaking international laws on human rights and that rules governing the use of cages could not be enforced. The study recommended that the homes be replaced by a system modelled on Britain’s, in which former residents of institutions have been helped to lead semi-independent lives in the community.

“Unfortunately the recommendations on retraining and alternatives were shelved,” said Milena Janova, the former civil servant responsible for the report. “Instead of getting rid of them, the government is ploughing millions into repairing and restoring the buildings.”

For now there seems little prospect of change for mentally handicapped residents and psychiatric patients alike. A teenage boy at a psychiatric institution in southern Bohemia is said to have spent his life in a cage; patients suffering from senile dementia are kept in cages in central Bohemia; and a psychotherapist who had a nervous breakdown and was sent for a rest at a home in Sternberk, near the city of Olomouc, found himself injected with sedatives and locked in a cage.

“Over a two-week period they spoke to me only twice,” said Dusan Dvorak, 42. “It was like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”

Institutions in the Czech Republic’s poorer neighbour, Slovakia, are said to be struggling to cope with more than 30,000 patients and cages are commonly used. A recent picture taken in one home by a human rights activist shows a despairing young woman left almost naked in her cage.

The use of cages was banned in Slovakia before it joined the EU but health workers say privately that the law is not enforced. It does not in any case apply to psychiatric institutions and there are scant funds for alternative treatment.

In Hungary a similar ban is expected to come into force this month but does not apply to the physically handicapped residents of care homes.

Vladimir Hruby, a spokesman for the labour and social affairs ministry in Prague, said it had no intention of outlawing cages.

However, the Czech Republic is facing challenges from the Human Rights Watch lobby group, which says the country is in breach of a United Nations convention on the rights of the child, which takes precedence over domestic law. Nicholson’s aides are assessing whether the use of cages contravenes European human rights law that prohibits “degrading” treatment.

The officials in charge of Czech care homes continue to defend the cages. Miroslav Kubin, director of the home where the 14-year-old child had died, said controls had been tightened after the “tragic accident” and added: “But we will continue to use them (cages) unless they are outlawed.”

At the Raby home where Vasek shrieks his defiance, Jan Slezak, the director, claimed that worse could follow if the cages were banned: “These cages should be thought of as big cots that stop patients falling out. If we got rid of the cages then we’d have to strap the patients to their beds or put them to sleep with sedatives.”

mississippi
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I'm amazed at the seeming lack of concern for the people suffering in this thread. All those that have strong opinions about superficial things appear to be completely disinterested in the fate of people outside their own sphere. Funny how they have strong views on going to war but not innocent kids. Could it be that no one in this country is in the firing line so it doesn't matter?
radiodenver
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The world is full of superficial things and superficial people George. Too many in fact. Style over substance is the order of the day. Anything that interferes with pleasure and sense of ease is glossed over and left to the activist or is only brought up in conversational terms and then only in the most benign context. Often it's sterilized and sanitized, so's not to upset the easily upset. Someone above did this by changing the subject to animal rights. Feels better and more addressable. I take my battles to the front and save it from these forums. Causes are many, soldiers are few.
alumbloom
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Shocking!
Liana
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Well, today I recieved a copy of a letter that Denis McShane, minister for Europe sent to my MP, and the minister even mentions my name in his correspondence to my MP. I am deeply impressed... In the letter it tells of a meeting that has taken place between the Czech minister of Labour and Social Affairs and the Ministry of Health to draw up draft guidelines to ensure the restraint practises are altered. It is deeply detailed and I have also been sent the copy of the report on the Implementation of Recommendations of the European Comittee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment that was drawn up since the govt became aware of this in 2002... The Czech Govt has also approved a law expanding the powers of the Public Protector of Rights to protect mental health patients in institutions, and it would appear that this is as a direct result of intervention from the British Govt. Wow. Impressive. Impressive that they are already working on this, and impressive that my MP put himself out to such a degree. I am plenty chuffed.
fergal
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Brilliant.
radiodenver
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This ice-cream is good, where's the remote? Yes it is dull isn't it?
jude
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My MP Humhrey Mallins is the tpe of overpaid, overweight, upper-class, deluded toff that gave the tories a bad name!!!!
Liana
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Mark Simmonds House of Commons 4th August Dear Ms Hemmett Thank you for your fax dated 3rd August 2004 regarding the plight of children in long stay mental hospitals in the Czech Republic. I was concerned to read your letter, and understand your worries regarding this matter. With this in mind, I have today written to the Foreign Secretary to ask what discussions have taken place between the British and Czech Governments to address this very serious issue. Once I have received a full reply, I will of course write to you again. In the meantime, if I may be of further assistance to you as your constituency MP I hope that you will write again. Yours Sincerely Mark Simmonds MP That was pretty quick wasnt it? Anyone else?
fergal
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Dear Ms Webster Thank you for your recent fax regarding the use of cages in homes for children in the Czech Republic. I am equally disturbed by these reports and agree that it is important that the issue be raised witht he Government here. As you can see from the enclosed, I have forwarded your letter to Dr Denis MacShane, Minister for Europe. I will send you his response when I receive it. Yours sincerely Ian Gibson MP
Liana
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nice one x
mississippi
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I've said my piece too.
jude
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I could hardly believe this when I read it...that people could be so lacking compassion. But I can believe the EU don't give a toss. The EuU entry requirements are largely about money... those that aren't are overlooked. For example a country must have an alcohol and drug policy in place...tackling these issues. Often a lame policy is cobbled together then ignored. However countries like Bulgaria can't enter because of their nuclear power unsafety. If another Chernobyl happened in the EU it would be apart from an international disaster an embarrasment that the EU hadn't spent money to make the stations safe. So as the EU doesn't want to spend the money they simply sit back and hope that the numerous desperately unsafe power-stations are eventually de-comissioned before they leak contamination over Western Europe. They happily give money to the Ukraine though...because Chernobyl's already happened and they know they have to re-enforce the Sarcophagus to prevent a second leakage...poor Belarus who got 70% of the contamination get sweet FA because the station isn't within their borders. like everything it's money money money
Mark Brown
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Told you the Fax your MP thing at least gets you a reply. When I get replies from my MP I get unaccountably excited, as if Santa had written back to the letter that you put up the chimmney. Next step is contacting McShane I suppose.
radiohomeless
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Ahhh, A recruit.
míssíssíppí
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It seems that my MP works slower than Lianas, but nevertheless I recieved what I suspect is a carbon copy of the letter she received from her MP two weeks ago. Being the cynic that I am, and knowing that an election is not too far off, I guess it's good PR to reply to constituents who 'bother' MP's with human rights issues. Of course my cynicism may well be unwarranted, in which case I applaud both MP's. I reproduce the full communication here for the benefit of those who may wish to read the Minister's comments and the report of the Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. >> HOUSE OF COMMONS LONDON SW1A OAA From: Mark Francois Member of Parliament for Rayleigh To: G. Van Win Esq In his House On his street Where he lives (Address edited at George's request) 9th September 2004 Dear Mr Van Win Sunday Times article, 13th June 2004; 'Ordeal of the Czech children' Further to my letter of 16th August 2004,1 have now received a response from Denis MacShane, Minister for Europe, a copy of which is enclosed for your reference. You will see from Mr MacShane's reply that the Government is aware of alleged poor treatment of patients including children, and has raised the matter with the relevant Czech authorities. The Czech Government has also taken some action to protect patients against ill treatment. The Minister has sent a copy of a report by the European CPT following a visit to the Czech Republic in 2002, which is enclosed. I hope you will feel that I have been helpful in drawing your concerns to the Minister's attention. Yours sincerely Mark Francois Member of Parliament for Rayleigh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foreign & Commonwealth Office London SW1A 2AH From: Minister for Europe Our reference: 600799/04 6 September 2004 To: Mark Francois Esq MP House Of Commons LONDON SW1A OAA Dear Mark Thank you for your letter of 16 August enclosing a copy of an email from your constituent G Van Win of Chelmsford, about the treatment of orphans within the Czech Republic. We are aware of reports of alleged poor treatment of patients including children at Czech mental hospitals and care homes. We raised this matter at a senior level with the relevant Czech authorities on 30 June. The issue of net beds or cage beds has been discussed both at the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs and the Ministry of Health, and they are drawing up guidelines on the use of restraint. The Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs is working on a draft law on social services, which includes a basic provision on the use of restraint, and the Ministry of Health is creating standards for the use of restraint in psychiatric institutions. The Czech Government has also approved a law expanding the powers of the Public Protector of Rights to protect those in psychiatric hospitals and social care institutions against ill treatment. I have enclosed a copy of the report on the Implementation of Recommendations of the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CPT) in 2003, resulting from the CPT's, visit to the Czech Republic in 2002 for your constituent to read. We shall continue to monitor developments. Yours sincerely Denis MacShane Minister for Europe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on the Implementation of Recommendations of the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (hereinafter only 'CPT9) in 2003, Resulting from the CPT's Visit to the Czech Republic in 2002 'The CPT recommends that measures be taken, for as long as net-beds remain in use, to ensure that persons placed in such facilities are not exposed to the view of other patients/residents and are subject to appropriate supervision by staff; this recommendation should be applied mutatis mutandis to other means of restraint, such as straight-jackets or fixation; this should not preclude persons subject to means of restraint being visited by fellow patients/residents, if this is advisable from a medical standpoint9 (paragraph 128). 'The CPT believes that more suitable means than net-beds can be found to ensure the safety of persons with impaired mobility or nocturnal disorders (e.g. disorientation or sleepwalking)9 (paragraph 128). 'The CPT trusts that its recommendations made in paragraphs 125 and 128 will be taken into account in the preparation of draft standards on the use of means of restraint applicable in in-patient psychiatric institutions in the Czech Republic' (paragraph 129). The use of restrictive means in providing health care to patients at in-patient mental health facilities must be precisely defined by an internal regulation of the facility director, as stems from the statements by directors of psychiatric hospitals. This legal regulation must also specify the duration of application and expediency in the interests of treating the patient. A record of the measures taken is then drawn up and filed in healthcare documentation, including a report on the termination of the use of restrictive means. As for the use of net beds, these are only used in isolated cases, especially for geriatric patients, and only for the period required, as a humane way of protecting the patient from serious injury during sudden cases of amentia at night. Considering the current level of staffing at hospitals, the use of net-beds cannot be discontinued entirely because this is a measure which prevents patient injury, as mentioned above, especially in geronto-psychiatric wards where a disoriented and confused patient is in danger of falling, which could cause unpleasant complications, especially a fractured collum of the femur. Placement in a net-bed is a temporary measure, usually during the critical evening and nighttime hours when the disorder intensifies. The measure must be indicated by a doctor and specified in the healthcare documentation. Calming the patient by this means is often safer than applying high doses of drugs with possible side effects and complications or than tying an agitated patient to the bed, where the subjective feeling of restriction is bound to be more unpleasant and where there is a certain risk of surface injury to the skin. However, even in cases of agitation, especially among psychotic patients, this method cannot be replaced. In connection with what is mentioned above, we note that beds fitted with nets cannot be removed from psychiatric hospitals immediately. The Ministry of Health, in cooperation with the Czech Psychiatric Society, is preparing standards for the application of net-beds, which will be published in the Ministry of Health Bulletin. 'The CPT would like to be informed of the progress made in the introduction of guidelines on the quality of social services and an obligatory registration and inspections of social care institutions as well as of standards on the use of means of restraint applicable in in-patient psychiatric institutions in the Czech Republic9 (paragraph 129). The social services department of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs treats reports on the abuse of restrictive measures very seriously and with the responsibility this issue merits, with regard to the protection of vulnerable groups of the population and respect for human rights. One of the positive results of the process of protecting vulnerable groups against undignified treatment is the creation of Social Service Quality Standards, a practical means of maintaining quality in social services. These standards were published in April 2002 and their primary aim is to protect the rights of social service users. At present, a number of regions are developing these standards for the different types of facilities in the regional service network. In cooperation with experts, the social services department of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs is currently trying to find solutions to the issue of the use of beds fitted with nets and cages in residential social service facilities. The use of these beds in facilities is regulated by internal guidelines; the quality of records and the existence of records on the use of net and cage beds varies. The Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs has embraced the following way of handling the problem of using net and cage beds and other restrictive measures: 1. In the framework of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs, a methodological measure for the approach to the exceptional use of net and cage beds in residential social service facilities is being prepared; the purpose of this measure is to take the first step in finding a solution to the problem of using these beds. The working version of the methodological guideline permits the use of net and cage beds in exceptional circumstances only, i.e. when the health and life of the client or another person is at risk, and only for the period absolutely necessary, while respecting the strict rules of record-keeping in the client's file and in the log documenting the use of these beds. At the same time, the guideline covers responsibility for the use of these beds and inspections by the founder when these types of beds are used repeatedly for the same client, with respect for an assessment of the expediency of this treatment by an independent expert. 2. Bearing in mind the complexity and sensitivity of the problem of the use of restrictive measures in residential social service facilities, a project aimed at conducting a detailed investigation of the problem in the Held, with co-participation from social service providers, representatives of the users of social services, representatives of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs, and specialists is being prepared, again in cooperation with experts. The idea of this project is to contribute, with provider support, to a reduction in restrictive measures and to meet the human requirements of those social service users who are exposed to the risk of restrictive measures in residential facilities. <<
Flashwithacrava...
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Not very wise to post your address here Missi?
dogfrog
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I'm wondering what sort of numbers of people actually do write to their MP's. My guess is as a percentage of their constituents very few. Electronic forms of communication are obviously since they can be dealt with quicker and you can easily provide your MP with material he or she may not have seen or would get to see. I wrote to my MP by email last year about the sale of replica guns and she replied next day and she confirmed my email by snail mail AND sent me proof of all of her ongoing correspondence. Talk about covering your arse. This thread is proof that democracy is great if people can be bothered. My other guess is that alot of Westminster takes no chances when dealing with Interweb based comms because you could be anyone ie. a journalist. People forget that your MP, especially if their Liars, I mean Labour, do have access to some very senior bods. Whether they do anything about these things is another matter entirely. dog frog
míssíssíppí
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It was an oversight flashy, I've mailed mark and asked him to remove it but it doesn't help you bringing it to public attention either.
Flash
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Yes apologies for that Missi, but it was more to alert you in case you weren't aware you did it.
mississippi
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oops! Perhaps I was a little hasty in denigrating the local MP. I received the following letter in yesterdays post. From: Mark Francois, Memeber of Parliament for Rayleigh House of Commons London SW1A 0AA Dear Mr. Van Win Sunday times article, 13th June 2004; 'Ordeal of the Czech children' Thank you for your email of 3rd August 2004. I,like you, was horrified to read about the ordeal faced by these children. I have written to Dr Denis MacShane MP, Minister of State for Europe in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, enclosing a copy of your correspondence and the relevant article, asking him for his views on this matter. I will of course be back in touch with you as soon as I receive a response. Yours sincerely Mark Francois
Liana
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Nice one Missi... it might *just* make a difference.
Mykle
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Oooh, thanks Flash... I'd missed that.
mississippi
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Jesus christ! So there IS someone alive in Westminster. It's not that turd Mark Francois who is sposed to be MY MP though. I bet the little shit shows up at election time as usual. My answer will be the usual one too. F*** off.
Liana
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Yeah, I'm plenty impressed actually. Hope to hear more and be able to report back at some point. (ps... paper very expensive creamy vellum)
radiobongodrum
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Turd?
míssíssíppí
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If you think a white-haired old tosser like you bothers me Mykle you must be nuts.
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mississippi
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Author: radiobongodrum (---.duhjones.com) Date: 08-10-04 17:41 Turd? Oh it's just a little English colloquialism for a defecation. I'm impressed too Liana, perhaps it didn't help, me telling Francois to get off his idle arse and DO something about it. I've decided not to apply for the job in the diplomatic service.
radiosoap-box
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Liana, I applaud your effort to fax a letter to your local politician; however, somehow I do not see the fax machine as a solution to Czech Republic social problems. It will allow you to get on a political mailing list though. I would imagine that the UK isn't much different than the US when it comes to politicians.... Any letter to a congressional/political representative will garner a response. It’s called “schmoozing for votes” in these parts…, follow up on his follow-up, see if he actually goes on record as attempting anything what-so-ever about this. Another good place to start would be to FAX him a letter asking him for a suitable, government approved charitable organization that may be involved with this issue (or some issue of your choosing). Here is where the rubber will meet the road. If he knows anything about it, he'll be able to point you in the right direction.
Liana
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Yep, this is appalling... and it's still happening all over eastern and some poorer parts of central europe. It was only 20 years since similar practises occured in this country. Ten years since I worked with ex long stay mental patients trying to undo horrific institutionalised behaviour caused by psychiatric "care". It's money, not particularly lack of care in this case ... they dont have the resources to give the minimum standard 3:1 care that is obligatory in this country in some units. They dont understand how to change it, even if they might stop to consider it's wrong. (unlikely, they've worked this way for years and dont know it's wrong). They dont have an NHS. The education of these workers has to be paid for, and they dont have the money. I visited a deafblind institution in prague three years ago with a view to teaching the workers fresh practise, and was amazed at their levels of care (in a good way) Perhaps Brussels could fork out eh? (Raby is nowehere near Prague. they dont need to use emotive comparisons with so called sophistication, the sutuation is bad enough already)
radiosoap-box
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dhu...errr.... duh...
fergal
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I emailed my MP a few days ago and am waiting for a reply. The thing about these things, I feel, is that we have all become desensitised to stuff like this because we read/see it all the time. That doesn't mean we are all bastards, it means that we switch off to protect ourselves from all the crap out there. What we (and by we I suppose I mean 'us in The West') need is to be reminded just how many freedoms we have and to feel bloody lucky to be in the sort of position a lot of us are. If people put the same amount of effort into making the world better for others as they did getting ready to go out on a Friday night then who knows what the world would be like... I think people forget that everyone in the world is JUST LIKE THEM, in as much as they feel things and experience things and can be hurt, punished and loved in the same way. We focus too much on 'other' rather than 'sameness' and I'm always wondering what the hell we can do about it. Some of my family, who don't have greatly paid jobs and are always struggling to pay bills, say to me, 'I just don't have time to do anything about it'. I am always trying to come up with ways to make time. Another thing is that people don't often hear about this stuff. I explained to my grandmother and her daughter and her kids the other day about Fair Trade and they looked at me as though I had just swallowed a bowl of toilet water. After quite a lot of silence my aunt said, 'I've never even thought about where stuff comes from before other than from in packets,' It's education to the masses that is needed, but there seems to be not so many public forums that deal with interesting and vital topics. The tabloids tend to just whip up stuff about whatever is the flavour du jour and christ knows the tabloids is where many of 'us' get our information. p.s. As to the whole animal/human rights debate may I just say that I don't see the harm in being enthusiastic about both... why does it have to be an either/or scenario. I'm sick of being told to ignore animal rights because of all of the human rights abuses.... I am interested and devatstated by both in different ways. I want to make everything good, not just one thing...if only I had the time. p.p.s. Join Amnesty International too
fergal
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p.s. this is why it is not good to get pissed off when people don't pull out fast enough in a stream of traffic. IT DOESN'T MATTER. There is no greater example, in my humble opinion, of why people don't get too effected about things like the children in cages than of being an angry, aggressive driver. Oh, right, yeah, sorry mate, YOUR journey is the ONLY journey that counts. Everyone else is making YOU late and can't drive for toffee. I mean. REALLY.
Katrina
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Have just read this post with utter horror. I imagine my son, no in fact I cannot imagine my son in living conditions such as these. Whilst writing the first few lines I was wondering about what ABC'ers could do to help. Then I thought of what ABC stands for. Help for the homeless. I have always empathised with the homeless because 'there for the....etc etc etc'. However there is the element that most of homeless people are responsible for in some way or another for being in their situation. Whether it be drugs, alcohol, gambling or just bad parents. But these kids are not responsible, they don't deserve this. How can we help? I for one humbly ask the hierachy at ABC can we help? So instead of debating the rights and wrongs of this can we actually band together colectively and DO something about these barbaric situations? PLEASE
Liana
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Writing to your MP would be a start...
Mykle
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Grow up George.
Liana
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Denver - if everyone thought that way, nothing would ever count. Of course I will follow it up. I wont forget. Its patently clear that a fax isnt the solution to the czech social problems... I'm sure you weren't seriously offering that as a point to consider. I have sent a mass mailing out with all the details, a stock letter, the faxyourmp addy, and Ive had 17 responses, some from people I dont know, telling me they will take it on board. I also spend a great deal of time in Cz (as many people here know it's my second home), and a few of my friends there are also taking this on board. If I end up ona mailing list because of this, well it's no skin off my nose is it? Many people who didnt know, know now, so thanks to Missi for this.
Katrina
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wish I could have your confidence Liana, however experience tells me that the MP is just making the proverbial noise!
Karl Wiggins
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To see or hear about children suffering is always terrible. Only this morning I was reading the story of a man who as a child was in Auschwitz. Out of 15,000 children who went to the camp only 93 survived. His mother was also at the camp, although they were separated (his father was tortured and killed in the gas chambers). His mother, however, washed people's clothes at the camp for extra portions of black bread, which she would mix with hot water from the laundry in a big saucepan. She managed to feed her three sons from this pot, although he never saw her take a spoonful herself. He still suffers nightmares of other chillden watching them eat. That saucpan survived and every year they have a special meal and use it on the anniversay of her birth. But that was 1945 and the Cage Children are today, in a supposedly civilised country. Shocking!
Liana
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We never know though chick... it can't make it any worse, and is better than nothing. Hopefully anyway... and i did say *might* :o)
radiodenver
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Liana, I have no clue what's clear and isn't to you. Nor is it my desire to make things clearer through the great fogs of life. I was musing about politicians and their ways. As I said earlier on in this long thread, I take my battles to the front, keeping them off the forums and other public stages, as in my experience those that are most vocal are typically the least help.., you are proud of the efforts you are making to address somethiing of social concern and it is an admirable thing to say the least. Unfortunately, politicians aren't necessiarly the best solution to problems and neither are fax machines (the point I was making). The glossy letter doesn't amount to shit in my opinion (the other point I was making). Now, will you marry me?
shackleton
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Respect Mississippi!!! You're not as daft as you sometimes look... or as daft as you sometimes cogitate... or as daft as you sometimes bait. Go man go! [%sig%]
Liana
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Denver, I know all about how many people won't bother protesting.. that's how whole countries end up in a war they're not sure of... or allowing the election of a president that they didnt vote for. Still, whilst there is ice cream, 5lb burgers and 300 tv channels, nothing really *does* seem to matter to many. Will you continue for much longer making the same marriage joke? Only you see it's a bit dull to most ... if you're doing it to annoy me - it's not working. I'm already married, with a lover too, so I'm afraid there's simply no room for another, even a scintillating man such as yourself.
míssíssíppí
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And end up like you? Never.
justyn_thyme
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Yes, and I don't think the governments in eastern Europe will stop lining thier pockets at the expense of the public anytime soon. Of course, that's the way of the world, including the West, where it is just a bit less direct (campaign contributions in return for 'access,' for example).
Liana
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meawhile... im happy to report that the czechs are aware of the cage stuff, and are campaigning themselves. It will stop soon now I think.
Flash
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Good show L.
Liana
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spot on james.
Jay
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Not a lot has changed with the world I see since 1928 where kids from the age of two were sent, one large home right here in London in the oh so posh area of Hamstead and it had a celler which was dark cold and damp were nobody heard your screams or cries and nobody in those days reported your plight in the papers. Oh to be young again and able to help even just to have the cash would be something, I love kids and I have always quoted to any one who would listen if ever I won the lottery my very! First! Propriety would be to the children of the world as they are sooooo vulnerable... PS Sorry to sound so sanctimonious but do feel so deeply about this subject as I am sure others do too.
justyn_thyme
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If the so-called animal rights activists would change their focus to human children instead of laboratory rabbits, maybe this issue would get more press. That will never happen, though, because it's so much more fun to throw paint on so-called 'rich people' wearing fur coats than it is to accomplish something useful.

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