depression caused by sugar!

no wonder i'm an optomist. i'm diabetic!

Weird: I just got re-booted on the site. Anyhow... I'm sure that doughnuts in moderation, combined with a healthy amount of exercise (30 mins every day) will alleviate both the need to abstain from the pleasures of pastry due to health concerns, and your depressive tendencies. Exercise works wonders on depression. I had gestational diabetes, mikepyro: does that count? Is that why I'm an optimist with depressive tendencies (or is it a depressive with optimistic tendencies...hmmm...)

I was diagnosed with bipolar depression years ago, but to this day, I think subconsciously the shrink didn't like me and was trying to stamp out my oddities by getting me onto a regiment of lithium. Call me paranoid but I refused. He charged me 65 quid for every hour he sat there with a spazzed out expression on his twattish face, spouting inane drivel. After several years of this I was considerably poorer and still depressed. I blame myself for employing his services but I was rather desperate. Finally, after 9 years of depression, I found a solution. 90% of the depression disappeared when I stopped using my body as a toxic chemical wasteground. The residue is something I've accepted and it no longer bothers me.As for your original point (and I fully fess up to waffling randomly here) , in the grand scheme of things, on top of a cocktail of vodka redbull, coke, benzos and opiates, I never noticed the effects of the odd Mars Bar. These days, I don't drink or take illegal drugs, I've quit smoking and chemical extraction to get the codeine out of solpadeine is out of the question, so shoving my face full of krispy kreme donuts its one of life's pleasures. It feels good and so do I. jude "Cacoethes scribendi" http://www.judesworld.net

krispy kreme donuts is one of life's pleasures. It feels good and so do I. What an ad. See slim, buxom blonde in a fluffy pink sweater, seated on a swivel chair in studio, framing donut with her hands. Dunno about the sugar thing. As far as I know, illnesses such as bi-polar and other moderate-severe depressions, are biological in origin, whereas the likes of your mild or reactive are temporary 'life anxieties'. Everything in moderation, etc, etc. There's nothing more mind-teasing than the incomprehensible eagerly avowed - Dennett

"He charged me 65 quid for every hour he sat there with a spazzed out expression on his twattish face, spouting inane drivel." Such sycophantic, unquestioning ego-massage of the medical profession makes me very sad.

* I'm sure that doughnuts in moderation, ..... will alleviate both the need to abstain from the pleasures of pastry....* Umm, as a long-time consumer of doughnuts, (Caramel topped custard ones being the best by a million miles), and having never even SEEN a 'pastry' doughnut, I'm wondering if there's a secret bakery shop that sells such an item, hidden away in some dark corner of Cambridge I've never been to.

I have never been able to ingest refined sugar in any quantity without getting, at a minimum, a terrible headache. One can of regular soda and I will be nearly incapacitated with the resulting headache. I therefore stay away from refined sugar, candy, etc. Once in a blue moon I'll eat a little piece of chocolate or a small pastry (as long as it is not overly sweet). I like the taste, but it almost always gives me a headache anyway, even in small quantities. As for the depression effect, refined sugar can cause hyperactivity (just look at what happens to little kids when they eat candy), so coming down off a sugar high can cause a temporary depression. I've had that happen as well. Of course, not everyone will have the same experience. Your mileage may vary. "You don't need the light of the Lord to read the handwriting on the wall." Copies of Warsaw Tales available through www.new-ink.org

Missi, As a fellow consumer of doughnuts (Tesco raspberry jam-filled are still my faves, sadly, followed closely by buttermilk bars from Dunkin' Donuts, and yes, I even worked in a doughnut shop when I was 17), I KNOW doughnuts aren't pastry!!! However, I was using 'pastry' as a general term for sticky sweet things covered with sugar and filled with gooey stuff. I'm sure most *intelligent* people would have figured that out. Good god, man, how does your wife put up with your nit-picking?

AG, I am very proud of you, an American who has not missed half the letters out of doughnut. (I know I did but that was reference to a specific brand which uses the incorrect spelling so doesn't count) jude "Cacoethes scribendi" http://www.judesworld.net

I could have sworn I'd just posted something, but I have a serious case of lurghy today so am clearly not thinking clearly! I was GOING to say: Thank you, Jude! :-) I think most Yanks spell it 'donut' because Dunkin' Donuts held the doughnut hegemony for a long while; plus we are pragmatic spellers and try to omit as many 'extra' letters as possible! Personally I don't like either spelling as they both seem somehow wrong. 'Donut' should be pronounced 'doo-nut' and 'doughnut', when I pronounce it in my head, is closer to 'doch-nut', like the Scottish 'och'. Maybe we should Homer Simpson it: DOH!-nut.

Nutritionist off the tele: 'Refined sugar is basically a poison. It'll rot your teeth, make you fat and eventually will give you diabetes."

Bingo! My point exactly about refined sugar. "You don't need the light of the Lord to read the handwriting on the wall." Copies of Warsaw Tales available through www.new-ink.org