Read or Dead?

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Read or Dead?

With 56,421 stories from 15,728 authors at the latest count I was wondering if anyone had any tips for ensuring ones work gets read?

Apart from appearing on the first page of 'Recently added' or being fortunate enough to be cherried or win either of the 'of the week' places, what else can a contributor do to get eyes across their words?

I can see that the fortunate few can build up a fan base keen to comment on their every offering but what if your work doesn't fit in with that clique?

I don't see an enormous amount of constructive criticism going on here either so is it fair to say that if it ain't read then it's dead?

Thanks FTSE100. I think I hear what you're saying - get my work chosen or find my own clique? I would however like to know that my work will also be read by others whose work I am not in much of a position to offer any sort of pertinent comment on. I guess those who don't get chosen or who do not join a clique have to rely on the search engine throwing them up into somebody's world. Maybe a selection of genre tags would help? Has anyone else got any other ideas please?
To tell the truth Jupiter, I have read some of your pieces. Can you explain to me why I should take the trouble to comment on your work? Your statement: 'I would however like to know that my work will also be read by others whose work I am not in much of a position to offer any sort of pertinent comment on.' is unlikely to encourage many to do so. Personally, I resent your use of the word clique. I intend to comment on your work very shortly, I hope you are able to accept the constructive criticism you claim to crave. Regards
Hi Ewan. Please feel free to comment on my work or not as you see fit. When I said : "I don't see an enormous amount of constructive criticism going on here either so is it fair to say that if it ain't read then it's dead?" I was referring to the amount of stories I have seen on the site with no comment, not specifically to my work. I think it's pretty clear from what I have said that I am looking for people to read my work, whether they comment on it or not is not the primary concern. Whether you think my use of language is poor or whether you feel my vocabulary is limited or my ability to write as someone in the past has said they think I should is of little concern to me. I am more interested in being able to impart ideas which stick like glue so if you have anything constructive to say in that area I would welcome it. Having set out my stall and given your aggressive manner there is a danger that anything else from you now, given your status as linguistic royalty on the board, might be seen as nothing but intimidatory showboating. But feel free, you certainly appear to feel the need. As for the word 'clique' I checked the meaning on wikipedia before using it. "an exclusive group of people who share interests, views, purposes," It seemed to fit what I wanted to say. And finally, what was meant by : "I am not in much of a position to offer any sort of pertinent comment on" was that I'm not a follower of poetry rules, not interested in iambic whatnots and haven't schooled myself in them so I'm not in much of a position to offer any sort of pertinent comment apart from 'I like that' which you might agree would be pretty weak. It seems to me Ewan, having read some of your stuff that you are more than capable of understanding what I had written, so why, given that I have not attacked you, do you feel the need to be so aggressive towards me?
If you include the name of a celebrity and add the fact that she has big tits you can ensure a good number of hits. I entitled a Spencerian sonnet about religious sentiment in post vatican II Europe 'Angelina Jolie Hardcore **** **** ***** banging' and got several hundred reads. jude

 

"poetjude | May 25, 2009 - 18:34" Mmmm! Humour? Or another friend I've made? At 319,546 hits and counting on just 393 stories you have obviously cracked it. Perhaps you could offer a little more Jude?
Well Jupiter, when I first joined ABCtales, I started by reading some of the 'cherry picked' work to get an idea of what the whole thing was about and what I could expect. I duly commented on some of the fantastic work that I came across. I did feel unqualified to make in depth analysis of some of the work but if I liked something, I said so and why. I found a lot of people, who's work I consistently liked and could empathise with; I regularly look for their work and consider them friends. They likewise regularly comment on my work. I also try to read as much new work as I can and if I come across something that, in my humble opinion is very good, I advise others to check it out too. I certainly don't consider myself a member of a clique. If you are hoping that your work will be commented on by all and sundry whether or not you are willing to reciprocate, I'm afraid that you may be disappointed. I have learned a hell of a lot by reading others work and had some good laughs AND made some good friends into the bargain. You will find this a very friendly and open site. If - like me - you are no expert in the writing of poems, prose or stories but are willing to accept constructive critique and in some cases heart-warming praise, you will enjoy the site immensely and very soon be made to feel at home and at ease. The old phrase 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you' comes to mind. Come in, join us and enjoy; I look forward to reading your work, as will others. Chris ;)
Thanks Chris for your warm welcome. I hear what you are saying and I can see how the site can work. I guess I feel neither comfortable nor qualified to point out any inadequacy I might think I see in someone else's work so I don't really see myself getting involved with commenting very much unless I am praising. The stuff I am generally driven to write is designed to be always looking for a new audience as that is it's purpose and I would never want to coerce anyone to read it by being nice to them. Those who are ready and looking for it will find it, I just want to make sure it's on widescreen so they don't miss it that's all. ;) Meantime I have taken on board what you have said and given the time I will try your approach and see how I get on. If all I manage to do is learn some new techniques that will be a start. Cheers once again Chris.
I think I get it. You want readers but not comments is that right? Tony would know best but I get the impression that there aren't that many of us here and those that are don't read everything that's posted. I try to but it's hard to keep up. And I sometimes don't read all the way through. So as a newcomer you may have to start with a handful of readers and work from there. Commenting is something of an art form in itself I think. It's not easy being honest and tactful. Sometimes it's best not to say anything. I find comments useful myself. They encourage me to keep going and there's nothing quite like being worshiped and adored by fellow clique members, even Skunk.
Phew...sorry Skunk. I wasn't sure if you were a member of the clique or not.
Hi Chuck. Found your first post helpful. As for : "Phew...sorry Skunk. I wasn't sure if you were a member of the clique or not." ... Oh dear, my dear Chuck-ie You seem so huyoa-ey Stuck on one word-ie Like a poetic nurd-ie ;) G'is a shout when you get over it?
'As for the word 'clique' I checked the meaning on wikipedia before using it. '"an exclusive group of people who share interests, views, purposes,"' It's interesting that you choose Wikipedia for your research into definitions. OED-online has as its first defiinition: 'clique: noun a small close-knit group of people who do not readily allow others to join them. (From The Oxford Dictionary of English (2nd edition revised) in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)' This, I felt, was what you meant by your use of 'clique.' I apologise if you truly intended no slight. It was also interesting that you chose to accuse me of 'showboating' rather than refute anything which I said about your poem. If you feel I have been aggressive, I do hope that Naziwifebeater doesn't comment on your work. Good luck Ewan
"Ewan | May 26, 2009 - 06:59" Hi Ewan "It's interesting that you choose Wikipedia for your research into definitions." Went to google, entered 'clique', pressed 'search' and the first item was from wikipedia. I was in a hurry and it seemed to confirm to me that I could use it as I wanted without it being offensive - which is of course why I looked it up, I could already spell it. "It was also interesting that you chose to accuse me of 'showboating' rather than refute anything which I said about your poem." I didn't accuse you of showboating. What I said was : "Having set out my stall and given your aggressive manner there is a danger that anything else from you now, given your status as linguistic royalty on the board, might be seen as nothing but intimidatory showboating. But feel free, you certainly appear to feel the need." As you can see I was referring any possible future comment attacks. Having re-read your post I think my choice of the word aggressive was wrong - excuse me for that. Perhaps I should have said that I felt that you were being unnecessarily combative? As for "refute anything which I said about your poem" well at this point you had only said "I intend to comment on your work very shortly" so there was nothing to refute. I note you didn't take me to task over referring to you as 'linguistic royalty' ;) Anyway, enough of this tennis already!! Having 'spoken' with you on my ZooBabies page I can see that I was wrong, you are not being aggressive towards me, in fact you are very helpful. So if you feel the need for an apology then I offer it unreservedly ;) "If you feel I have been aggressive, I do hope that Naziwifebeater doesn't comment on your work." Sounds like something to look forward to. I'm sure he's a lovely guy. Cheers
"I note you didn't take me to task over referring to you as 'linguistic royalty' ;)" No, that just made me laugh. :-)
HAHAHA! Made me laugh too Ewan...huh humm.. Sorry Your Majesty, no insult intended :o
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