Dark Days Of The Soul

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Dark Days Of The Soul

As some of you already know I suffer from depression. I've been out of work for a long time, which doesn't help, and though I've been off medication for a few months now (I was on a seratonin booster for about nine months) every now and then I feel really low. Worrying about money (or the lack of it) only makes the situation worse, especially with Christmas just around the corner, and I find it difficult to drag myself out of the dumps at times like this. Applying for endless jobs and having almost no response is really pissing me off, it's got to the point when it's seriously disturbing my sleep. It's not as if I'm asking for the earth, I just want a job.

I've been doing my best to read and comment on the work of other site members a little more as I'm finding it hard to write right now (though I try), and hopefully that will make me feel useful. I'm going to put my nose to the grindstone for a few days and see if I can cheer myself up a bit - I don't want to go back on medication, but obviously if my mood doesn't improve at least a little I'll have no choice. Footsie mentioned in one of his posts the notion of finding useful, confidence building activities for the unemployed to give them a sense of purpose, and I'm all for that. I need structure to my days, I need to get out of the house, I need to do something useful apart from cooking and cleaning and sitting at my computer all bloody day.

Sounds obvious but what about volunteering? I know in my local paper there are 2 pages of jobs and 3 pages of volunteering, anything from mentoring young people, helping old people, looking after animals, even a couple of hours in a local charity shop can give you reason to get up in the morning. If you feel up to something more demanding the CAB are always looking for new recruits, the training is top notch and you get proper qualifications, also working with them does not affect any benefits you may get and lots of volunteers go on to full employment. Local colleges are usually on the look out for people to help students in the classroom if that is more up your street, Does that all sound a bit daunting? it's not! the people are always really friendly and many are in similar situations, also you can usually choose how many hours you would like to commit. Hope your days get lighter.

 

I'm sorry to hear about your dark moods Walrus. I suffer from the same mainly due to the season. I also feel that I should be spending my time on more useful things than the computer where I'm not always up to reading all I would like to. I try to get out every day for a short walk but that is about as much as I am capable of. Don't beat yourself up over it but enjoy what you do do instead. I'm sorry you can't get a job when you really want and need one. Money troubles aren't good especially when you have kids. I wish it would change for you and that life turned brighter. I haven't been able to open a book for months but am now able to again, thank goodness. I wish you well. ;)Pia
I work voluntarily at a charity shop. It gets me out of the house, shows prospective employers that I'm reliable and willing, and provides me with an endless source of writing inspiration (you get all kinds in a charity shop!) Plus, I've found a really good and supportive friend. My own situation is a bit weird, for reasons I won't go into, but I can identify with a lot of what you say. I hope things look brighter for you soon.

 

I had a beautiful person in my life who was diagnosed with PTSD. I know how it was for him. No money, no job, no self esteem, feelings of anger etc etc. But you. You are articulate and wise. You mentioned you were portly. Would you be up for doing bit excercise? Maybe not. Read barely black francis's story he has just written. Oh dear. I wish l could say something of value to you. But l wish you the very best xx
Thanks for the comments everyone, but all of a sudden things are looking up, and as far as I'm concerned a miracle has happened. The Jobcentre send the long-term unemployed on a course called Inspire for Inspirations. I've been attending for eight weeks, and so far the prospects on offer have looked pretty crap. The computers you do your job searches on there are primeval, so you end up sitting there for three hours doing a search that you could do in a fraction of the time at home. None of the advice I've been given seems much cop, and I was getting really fed up..... The last induction I went on was packing stuff for Amazon in Rugeley, it only lasts until just after Christmas. The staff are expected to pay fifty quid a month for using their bus service, which is an awfully big chunk out of minimum wage, and you get a travel pass that you can't use anywhere else, so I turned it down. This morning, however, I attended a group session with a company called Wis Intetrnational that undertake premium audits for various retailers both in Britain and abroad. I'm going for an induction in the morning where I'll be trained to use a hand-held scanner and given a very, very basic maths test, and it looks pretty much like I've got the job if I want it. They don't bother with references or formal interviews, it's purely performance based and as long as you're honest and reliable and you learn to do the job quickly and accurately within a reasonable probationary period you're in, and they have lots of work. I'll get picked up in a minibus twenty minutes walk from home, delivered home to my door if I come back late and hotels and meals are catered for if I'm working far away for a few days. The staff even get paid for travelling time if they work over a hundred miles from home. The basic wage isn't brilliant, but there's an option to work abroad for stints of a few days, and the money they pay for that is excellent. They currently have a hundred odd people working in France and a few in Amsteredam and Jersey. There are excellent prospects for promotion, and some of the staff become team leaders after just a few months. It sounds too good to be true, I know, but I'm really excited about this because it's all I want and need. The company admits that a lot of people can't hack the travel and monotonous work, but I reckon I can handle that pretty well; I worked in a press forge for eighteen years making automotive components, and I was as happy as a lark - also I made better use of my leisure time then.
I do need exercise, denni, all I get is walking the dogs, but it's some sort of structure to my life I really need.
I've thought about voluntary work before, but to be honest I don't think anyone should have to work for free unless it's doing something they really want to and/or if they are reasonably financially secure - I need a wage, however pitiful. If this job doesn't work out for me I may volunteer for an animal charity and do a couple of days a week cleaning kennels and exercising dogs, which is right up my street.
Well that was a happy development. Just the thing you needed. Great! Hope it all works out for you Walrus- you deserve it.
Thanks, Pia, I certainly feel a bit more optimistic about the future now. My wife is working (albeit for a low wage), we have child tax credits to top up her earnings and nothing else, and the little help we have from the government is not the same as me earning a wage. We're really struggling to make ends meet, and I feel helpless. We still have ten years mortgage to pay, and I've been lying awake at night thinking what's going to happen to use when the kids grow up and the tax credits run dry.
I'm just glad that this chance has arrived now before I slip into a more serious depressive state. If I had no money worries, Stan, say if I could actually make a bit of income from my writing, I wouldn't mind doing a day or two a week with animals or in a charity shop or something. I've had a couple of mild periods of depression in the past, but it's only since I've been out of work that they've got to me. When you have to get up in the morning, do a physical job and actually communicate with people instead of being alone all day (I don't like being alone for longer than a few hours at the best of times) it takes your mind off your troubles. Work of any form is good for the soul, but physical labour ensures that I sleep at night. Even during times when I feel mentally stable since I've been out of work and I'm writing like a dervish I have trouble sleeping properly, it's like my brain is overactive, and when I'm really enjoying writing something I can't quite switch off. I reckon even if I suddenly found myself a millionaire I'd have to find some sort of physical toil to keep me healthy - I'd build a writing cabin at the bottom of the garden with a woodburning stove and a vegetable patch just outide the window.
Hello good people--reading these very helpful suggestions for Walrus is both inspiring and humbling. A side effect of a stroke is depression, and I have been on a prescription for the past twelve years, since my own took place in 1999. Meaningful work, Volunteer opportunities and personal hobbies such as writing is the way to get outside of oneself. Your last note appears very positive---congratulations. Richard LP
Richard L. Provencher
Thanks, Richard, I'm just glad providence has smiled on me.
Hey Walrus I recently starting to admit to myself that I've been a depressive for a very long time. All my sisters suffer from it and so did my parents so it's pretty easy to accept. I'm the only one who's an addict in my family but it all seems to stem from depression anyway as it's my head that's the problem and not the booze, drugs, gambling. they're just symptoms of my illness. Having tried almost all illegal drugs and imagining that they're much better than legal ones (don't try Lariam whatever you do), I've shied away from anti-depressants as a matter of course and only delved into them twice. Once was two years ago but I got scared after six weeks when I went to a fancy dress party in Italy and found myself emotionally frozen and completely fucked. I stopped taking them, believing that the drug had caused these feelings of alienation. A few months ago, I went through a particularly morose time half-contemplating doing away with myself. I was so lost in self-pity that I couldn't get out of it but essentially this was a time when I wasn't doing enough for others and my apathy to being part of the world around me had me locked in myself. I went to my GP and he suggested a course of anti-deps so I reminded him about my experiences with them. He asked me to explain so I told him about the fancy dress party and he asked whether it may have been something else, something to do with my childhood, and only then did I twig that I used to be dressed up at Xmas by my older sisters and presented into a room with people. I'm two years clean now and starting to see how things are rather than how I'd like to see them so I was more open to thinking back to this time. I started taking anti-deps a week ago and I'm keeping an open mind as to whether they might help or not. It feels like 'being on drugs' in a way already, and I don't want to jeopardise my quest to gain conscious contact with my higher power, but I'm enjoying the ride so far. A friend calls it 'taking a holiday'. I was getting waves of massive, overwhelming tiredness and did a blood test and found I've got high potassium so I've got to do a non-fasting blood test to find out more but what will be will be. The main thing is I'm out there trying to help people again and having a good time while I'm at it. Voluntary work is key to my wellbeing and the saying 'life is a selfish program' starts to take on new meaning when we begin to differentiate between selfishness and self-centredness. If I feel good helping others, then it's selfishness that drives my good nature because I know how giving makes me feel amazing. I'm a volunteer corrdinator for an amazing charity and I take a lovely old woman every week to town. I go see my Mum and I try not to judge people/get angry in the car/see the bad in people/look at what I can get out of people etc. because it just doesn't get me anywhere ever. People are the same as me and if I can see through them they can see through me! Keep on truckin', Walrus. Asking for help is key. I have a fellowship of people who understand me because they have the exact same illness as me and I go to meetings four or five nights a week to stay clean. If I wasn't an addict, I don't know where I'd go but I'm sure that if you weren't an addict and wanted to come to an AA/NA meeting, no one would mind in the slightest. A huge proportion of alcoholics and addicts are depressive and in fact that is where the problem lies, in the mind, so you'd most likely have alot of empathy with what people share. If the meeting is 'open', that means that anyone is welcome. If it's 'closed' it means that it's only for alcies/addicts. I don't know of any fellowships specifically for depression but there may well be. Check it out and failing that come along to AA or NA. If you were to replace alcohol or drugs for 'life', you'll be able to see we're all talking about the same thing; depression. Alcohol and drugs are used to relieve the mind of the pain of living 'in the real world' because we don't feel like we fit, so they're just a symptom. I'm rambling now. Whatever you do, give it a whirl with all your heart, be open to change and you'll find a new way to live. There's no luck in it- just hard work.

 

It's certainly no fun being on edge nearly all the time, blighters, and as if being depressed isn't bad enough I seem to have a talent for getting myself into the most abominable pickles. I've been to an induction session today for a job with a company that does audits and stocktaking for a lot of companies both in Britain and Europe. We spent three or four hours in a nearby store that they do business with being taught the basics of operating hand-held scanners, then we went back to the office to fill in tons of paperwork. The managers tried to bully the two people with passports (me being one of them) into going to France for a week on Monday, which I can't do because my wife has sleep-in shifts and it's too short notice to arrange childcare - which we can't afford to pay for until I'm earning..... We were then given an id number and a password for the company website where employees check the jobs on offer and accept the ones they can do. After getting back to my home town I had to spend an extra hour and a half filling more paperwork in at an offshoot of the Jobcentre, so I didn't get home until after four. After I'd fed the kids, cats and dogs I logged in to the company website and changed my password as instructed, and now the damned site won't let me in whatever I type into the infuriating little boxes, and I'm positive that I didn't make any blunders. It's Friday evening, so I can't get in touch with the office (and even if I arrived home a bit earlier our landline accepts incoming calls only and I don't have any credit on my mobile; when I need to phone for jobs I do it at the Jobcentre or I use my wife's phone). There's a job on Monday I'm supposed to log in and accept. There's no online help if you've forgotten your password, so basically I'm stuck. Anyway, I can't do anything now until Monday morning, and knowing me I'll spend all weekend fiddling with the login and pointlessly fretting over it.
Providence heard my pitiful whimpers and came to my aid! One of the managers texted me, so having his phone number I explained the problem and he said to turn up anyway and we'll sort out the login problem later.
Good going Walrus- great- when you least expect it , eh!
Walrus, my husband was unemployed for two years when my children were young and I have suffered from depression for short periods at various times in my life. I am not afraid of taking anti-depressants because I see them as just getting me through a difficult chapter. I always know when I'm ready to come off from them because it is the time when I feel I can't be bothered to go and get them. Physical work such as kennel work can be good too. Animal charities would jump at any help you could give. All l would say is that no one has all good luck and by the same token no one has all bad. We thought we would never get out of our situation but fate played a hand and we came through it on the other side. Stick together and you will come through it too and be the stronger for it. My very best wishes Moya
 
Thanks for your kind thoughts Moya, I really appreciate it.
Sorry to hear about your troubles Walrus. I suffer from depression as well and the period I spent unemployed for 2 years was the bleakest of my life, it makes a huge difference to be up and out at work, where you can convince yourself you're being useful. I really hope one of these leads works out for you

 

Me too, Terrence. It's probably the worst time to be starting a new job with these feelings of hopelesness hanging over my head, but I have to be brave, get my head down, concentrate on what I'm doing and try not to crumble - I owe that to my family and myself. I'm sure I'll feel better once I settle in.
You're doing an admirable job, Walrus, and my hat is sseriously taken off to you for your commitment to your family. It reminds me that hard work always pays off in the end, even when dealing with the Jobcentre's website. They reward perseverance and you have that quality in abundance. Keep on truckin', buddy. Your kids will be proud of you.

 

Thanks for the kind words, folks, I'm struggling right now but I'm sure things will work out.