Notes on why Celtic Supporters Fly the Palestinian Flag.
Posted by celticman on Mon, 30 Oct 2023
Notes on why Celtic Supporters Fly the Palestinian Flag.
Epitaph on a Tyrant
W. H. Auden - 1907-1973
Perfection, of a kind, was what he was after,
And the poetry he invented was easy to understand;
He knew human folly like the back of his hand,
And was greatly interested in armies and fleets;
When he laughed, respectable senators burst with laughter,
And when he cried the little children died in the streets.
President Joe Biden offered some advice. Get the bad guys. And avoid the mistakes—he didn’t need to spell it out. President George W. Bush (junior) and his coterie of former oil men made after 9/11 when approximately 3000 Americans died. The Peter Principle suggests that people in a hierarchy rise to a level of respective incompetence. Even with the furthest outlier, the moron’s moron, President Trump, his political instinct for self-preservation at any cost would have proven correct. Neither Abraham Lincoln nor John F. Kennedy, no current or past American President could have survived politically without filling enough body bags to appease a jingoistic public stoked up by their national media for revenge.
President George W. Bush (senior) had in the 1990s proposed a new world order. It was just a matter of rejigging the plan. David Armstrong (2002) Drafting a Plan for Global Dominance, showed that the war on defeating terrorism, the pre-emptive strikes of threatening and attacking other countries was a return to colonialism. In the words of Colin Powell: ‘I want [the United States] to be the bully on the block’.
Luis Enrique Meja Godoy (1945-) translated by Dinah Livingstone
Revenge.
My personal revenge will be your children’s
right to schooling and to flowers.
My personal revenge will be to give you
these hand you once ill-treated
with all their tenderness intact.
Iran would be the lesson to the world after Iraq. The domino effect was in place. Like Dr Strangelove, no limits. Syria, North Korea, even China were in play since the Cold War with Russia ended. The political dividend: ‘Go massive, sweep it all up, related or not,’ was a memorandum Donald Rumsfeld had written to other neo-Conservatives in the then Reagan administration. Saddam Hussein was an enemy of Islamic fundamentalism but had to be categorised as a different type of Islamic fundamentalist. But the same kind of terrorist. A threat to the Western world and America in particular.
Ferreydun Tavallah (1919—85)
Wretchedness.
My soul is bored of the repetition
of days and nights,
My heart tired, my problems unsolved;
But still that bitter, black hope,
Like a broken dagger,
remains at my breast…
Beware of my wretchedness, beware!
I am a man who makes love
with the corpse of his dead hope.
The Iraqi link to biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction could not hold. The link to Iran and Iraq and al-Quida and over 200 million Arabs was established in the American public mind by what George Orwell called the ‘five-minute hate’ and the logic of self-defence of American and Israeli interests. Like Martin Ford’s in The Rise of the Robots in which a rogue artificial intelligence takes over this world and other planets to produce the perfect paper clip, security can never be secure enough and calls of ever increasing resources would be needed to protect around five million Israelis.
Pastor Martin Niemoller:
‘First they came for the Jew Palestinians
and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Jew Palestinian
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out-
because I was not a communist
Then they came for the Trade Unionist
and I did not speak out –
Edward W.Said was born in Jerusalem in 1935 and forced into exile 1948 from British Palestine. Covering Islam and Terrorism1997/2002, he notes the most effective propaganda was the most basic: men with beards. Mosques as a backdrop. The association between Islam and suicide bombers was, of course, men with beards coming out of Mosques. The rise of Isis in the devastation that was Iran—men with guns and beards—simplified what United Secretary of Defence termed the ‘known knowns’. All Arabs are terrorists and should be treated as such, unless they are part of an oil-rich kingdom like Qatar, who offered to act as mediators in the current conflict.
Seamus Heaney 1939—2013.
Human being suffer,
They torture one another,
They get hurt and get hard.
No poem or play or song
Inflicted and endured.
The innocent in gaols
Beat on their bars together.
A hunger-striker’s father
Stands in the graveyard dumb.
The police widow in veils
Faints at the funeral home.
History says, Don’t hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longer for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up.
And hope and history rhyme.
So hope for a great sea-change
On the far side of revenge
Believe it is a further shore
Is reached from here
Believe in miracles
And cures and healing wells.
Call miracle self-healing:
The utter, self-revealing
Double-take of feeling
If there is fire in the mountain
Of lightening and storm
And a god speaks from the sky
That means someone is hearing
The outcry and the birth-cry
Of new life at its term.
The disposed like Said, the 750 000 who lost their homes and livelihood when Israel established its homeland, those in the West Bank and Gaza, have swelled in number. Around 2.1 potential terrorists in Gaza. Half of them women and children. 20 000 pregnant women being told to move from the North to the South of the open-air concentration camp they live in for their own safety.
Charles Bukowski (1920—94)
War
war, war, war,
the yellow monster
the eater of mind
and body,
war,
the indescribable,
the pleasure of
the mad,
the final argument
of
ungrown men.
Said writes of the known knowns too. Before this terror, another, earlier Palestinian terror. The good bad old days. Water, food and electricity cut off.
‘But for all its horror, Palestinian violence the response of a desperate and horribly oppressed people has been stripped of its context and the failure to see that it is a failure in humanity.’
‘…so remorseless has been the focus on the phenomenon apart, a pure, gratuitous evil that Israel, supposedly acting on behalf of pure good, has been virtuously battling in its variously appalling acts of disproportionate violence.
‘I cannot think of any other country on earth that, in full view of nightly TV audiences, has performed miracles of detailed sadism against an entire society and got away with it
In the same way, Benjamin Netanyahu, who used his office of Prime Minister of Israel to keep him out of jail (Donald Trump did not create this model) and for personal gain has to react to the killings and kidnappings to survive politically. Not only for Hamas’s incursion into the State of Israel. But also the response time of six hours in which mass murder took place. Someone else has to pay for getting it so wrong with the wall breached so easily and readiness of troops on the ground even if it ends in a world war.
Rumi (1207-73) born in Afghanistan understood.
Only Breath
There is a way between voice and presence
Where information flows.
In disciplined silence it opens
With wandering talk it closes.
Seamus Heaney 1939—2013 poetry Chorus From The Cure At Troy as a palliative from Joe Biden, added to the annual $4billion grant voted by Congress. Israel can take the dollar to pay for its nuclear weapons, fighter jets, tanks and ever increasing defence costs. It can keep building higher and higher walls. Window dressing.
Rumi (1207-73)
Not a Christian or Jew or Muslim, nor Hindu,
Buddhist, sufi or zen. Not any religion
Or cultural system I am not from the East
or the West, or out of the ocean or up
from the ground, not natural or ethereal, not
composed of elements at all I do not exist,
am not an entity in this world or the next
did not descend from Adam or Eve or any
origin story. My place is placeless, a trace
of the traceless. Neither body or soul.
I belong to the beloved, have seen the two
worlds as one and that one calls out to know,
first, last, outer, inner, only that
breath breathing human being.
Rumi knew you cannot imagine the significance of Christ’s crucifixion if good cannot triumph over evil? Emily Dickinson: That Love is all there is…Is all we know of Love’.
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The Celtic supporters'
The Celtic supporters' support for the people of Palestine is incredible. I find it very moving. I feel the same way about the people of Ireland's support for the people of Palestine. I'm glad that there are at least some good people in the world who care.
Turlough
we are people of the famine.
we are people of the famine.
You have brought some very
You have brought some very interesting points and strands together in this article Celticman. Can I share some parts of it with credit to you on facebook? (all at once might be a bit too much for facebook!) It is informative! I doubt that too many people will read it there on my facebook, but it may reach some.
Share away David. Thanks for
Share away David. Thanks for reading.
Thanks.It has been heartening
Thanks.It has been heartening to see pictures of Palestinian flags shown at Celtic's matches (on facebook!),showing that there are many people who feel the Palestinians are not being treated fairly,and should be considered by those in authority! (along with some other clubs and demonstrations around the world!)
Directors of Celtic Football
Directors of Celtic Football Club (who just awared themselves between a 60-80% pay rise in line with other fat cats or very valueable members of a progressive board, whatever way you want to put it) have tried to ban such demonstrations. They're in a battle with the 'Green Brigade'. These are the ultras. Their behaviour, setting off flares and banners, have cost the club cash and Uefa fines. Visits from the constabulary. But their behaviour is lumped in with flying flags for a dispossed people like our forefathers, children of the famine.
I honestly thought there was
I honestly thought there was supposed to be a right of free speech in Britain. It is very sad to find, in this day and age that there isn't any more! At least people are not being arrested and sent to internment camps as in Palestine!
well, Braverman is coming on
well, Braverman is coming on strong with with should arrest protestors. From those waving Palestinian flags to those protesting about the coming mass extinction of mankind. But our prisons are full and they're letting prisoners leave early while talking of building more prisons. But we can never compare to the pain of the Palestinians.
I wondered if the flags at
I wondered if the flags at Celtic were about British occupation in Ireland. Made my heart swell, hearing about that. There does seem a complete disconnect on the News between the facts they are relating and the level of concern
"…so remorseless has been the focus on the phenomenon apart, a pure, gratuitous evil that Israel, supposedly acting on behalf of pure good, has been virtuously battling in its variously appalling acts of disproportionate violence.
‘I cannot think of any other country on earth that, in full view of nightly TV audiences, has performed miracles of detailed sadism against an entire society and got away with it"
YES
On the radio recently, a human rights campaigner from Israel spoke of Israeli settler violence against Palestinians before the Hamas atrocities, how Palestinian farmers have been shot dead, how their ancient olive trees have been sawed down in the night, their homes burned down. Even Biden has asked the Israeli government to stop this, because they do not care to stop it themselves. An Arab lady living in Israel described how, after the Hamas attack, her neighbour had barged into her home and thrown rocks at her children and herself, and called it self defence! And, like in America there is now the right for such neighbours to bear arms : "According to the ministry's updated conditions, any Israeli citizen interested in obtaining a permit, either for self-defense or because they are serving in the IDF, will be entitled to a gun license, provided that they have medical approval, police approval, and passed the exams for carrying private firearms.https://www.nraila.org/articles/20231016/following-terrorist-attack-isra...
an Israeli citizen can carry
an Israeli citizen can carry a gun. A Palestinian cannot carry a toothpick. To mouth a word of defiance is to face a long prison sentence as a terrorist or to be shot like a dog.
The reporting thing is
The reporting thing is worrying - not only reporters being banned from entering Gaza to film, and then the cutting of the internet and phone coverage so information and images are less likely to be got out to show what is happening there (let alone the lack of power to charge phones, meaning fewer images recorded), but also that Israel's right wing government considered banning al Jazeera in Israel, so there would be less chance of the country's more moderate citizens learning what is being done in their name
Exactly way the American
Exactly way the American administration reacted when the dropped 'Little Boy' on Hiroshama.
Mistakes and mistakes
Mistakes and mistakes and mistakes not being learned from