A domestic poll

Both ... the kind of comment I'd make later would be 'filthy people'. But then I know what it's like to come in at 10pm with lots of study to do and leave again early every morning and be too tired to clean... although it never gets that bad. I have considered employing a cleaner! I was discussing seat etiquette on the tube with my fellow students. In an era of equality I do not expect men to give seats to women; however, if at a stop, people disembark a crowded train freeing a seat, men should hold back to see if any women would like it. I believe in a mixture of the old and new! We also discussed the dilemma of what do you do if unsure a woman is pregnant or just a bit plump. You don't want to offend her if she isn't by offering your seat but if she is, you don't want to leave her standing. Niall's solution is to get off at the next stop and get back on the next carriage to free the seat without directly offering but this seems rather convoluted! jude "Cacoethes scribendi" http://www.judesworld.net

wouldn't tut tbh, in my work I've visited hundreds of homes over the years (social housing) and people who have real pits tend not to say anything, yet people who might have a mug on the floor, or something slight, apologise for the mess !!

lou ... i didn't notice you come in ...

Well... erm... honestly? I like to think I wouldn't tut, but would judge the people on somewhat more than how they keep their house... although in actuality, I may resort to the holding of the nose and attempting to escape from said abode forthwith! pe ps oid "the progenitor" "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

This is why I live alone. Student and shared house hell. My own space which is clean (esp the sink and loo) if not tidy!

I certainly wouldn't blame either sex - but I would look in horror at the whole lot of them. Anyone over the age of six can help clear up a bit. On the other hand there have been occasions... stones, glass houses etc.

Ahh... is it not a sign of the cree-yay-tiffity, Mr Cook?

How can one create when there are no clean mugs for tea? Hmm? Mr Ewan, sir?

The working class don't deserve to live. Talking of pregnant women, I was once behind a woman in a beer queue at a Radiohead concert who had a bit of a belly and kept rubbing it. In the most well-meaning way possible I asked her when it was due. Of course she wasn't pregnant. I now live by the rule that you don't refer to a woman's pregnancy unless you can actually see it coming out.

To be born in a beer queue at a Radiohead concert... I suppose there are worse ways to enter this world, but I am at a loss to think of any...