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Liana, Love the word Babicka, hate the 'old bag'. AJ

I never found out, I couldn't get past the locks!

Missi, Locks to her pad?? AJ

Sorry Jackie, my dirty minds at work again, I was thinking more chastity belt than doors!

I was thinking of the locks on the norfolk broads type locks - *head spinning*

The double entendre was intentional Liana.

Thank God for that. feel like I'm turning into a Benny Hill scropt, with all these double entendres and deliciously fascinating post headers :o) (oops, there goes another dble ent)

Scropt??

So you have a four-poster Liana? I have a spare crash helmet!

Not quite the post header l was thinking about fnaaar fnaaar

Bloke? Sounds like a fish, I think! This must be another one of those strange words that you can only hear in Brittain. But I guess you guys never use the words "dude" "howdy" or "neat-o" There is an Austrialian-like restaurant that I've gone to since I was a little kid that on the men's restroom it says "bloke" and on the women's restroom it says "shelia." And to this day, they don't have anything (no symbols or anything) designating which one belongs to which sex, except those words which no American uses. Good thing I asked what those words meant before I blindly chose a restroom! (I was a little smarty, wasn't I?)

*glowers*

I'm with primate. Bird is probably the nearest thing to bloke. It's also still in very common use with my neanderthal crowd. I don't think either is derogatory. I consider myself a 'bloke'. No harm done. We fuss too much. Like all these councils that try too hard to be P.C. and ban the use of innocent words like Darling and Luv. Sour and petty people. 'Totty' used to be female only, but like so much lads language, the girls have hi-jacked it. It's a womans world now and I suppose they've earned their turn. I quite like the female ladette culture - just wish I was young enough to be taken advantage of. They could call me whatever they liked. (Cheap -probably.)

I suspect that all us blokes are cheap mayman. if we were women we would be sluts and would love every bloody minute of it! the aussies have it right. sheila is a good term. although looked down on in this country. In fact, most terms for women in this country are derogatory come to think of it.

I don't mind being called a bloke. I agree with Primate (I have to as he's my poetry mentor) that the opposite of bloke is bird, which really is used quite a lot. Funny how we perceive certain words or phrases that are really very similar in a different light depending on the situation. If you say that your wife looks like the first day of spring, then she'll love you forever. But if you say that she looks like the last day of a long, hard winter, then you've got a problem. I guess the little things do make a difference.

Hey Geezer, What are YOU on about. Check your dictionary. I wrote kn......d. Now go away and check yours. Not enough letters. Now onto another question "Who are you?". You seem to be here there and everywhere, but who are you? I challenge you to reveal yourself, IF YOU DARE!!! AJ

but who is the real aj????? I DARE you to expose yourself!!

Come on now a lady or dowager NEVER exposes herself, darling. Don't you know. Anyway, old chap, I've been here for eons, EVERYBODY knows who I am. You dear boy are an interloper masquerading under false pretences, without the bottle to show your hand. So again, I DARE YOU to show yourself for the obvious coward that you are. AJ

Well, there's "er indoors" which has taken off amonget cerain people of the male persuasion.....copywrite Arthur Daly of Minder Ladette. aka Zoe Ball, Sarah Cox, Denise Van Outen....as in girls drinking pints and loving football "Bird" as a 70s pastiche.......and not disliked by all my female friends..... "Merlene" as in Merlene Ottey (Jamaican female sprinter) rhymes with Totty Bint, Babe, babes, etc ......all words not used by me...but overheard...... I think it depends on the receiver of your phrase.....ironic works...insulting shouldn't be used...because it's....................................insulting Mississippi......are you still confused.......

The Polish word for grandma is "babcia" pronounced bahb-cha. Czech and Polish are similar in many ways, though you should be careful telling this to either Pole or a Czech. They are quite well aware of the similarities, but a Pole will tel you that the Czech language sounds like a small child would has not yet learned how to speak properly. The Czechs say the same thing about the Poles. They are both right from their own perspective. Poles will sometimes burst out laughing when they here someone speaking Czech. The Czechs probably want to burst out laughing when they here Polish, but are more reserved. I lived in Poland for nearly five years. I've never lived in Czech, but I visited many times. As a Polish speaker, Czech sounds comical even to me, but when I speak Polish in Prague, they laugh at me as well, so there it is. As far as I know, the word "baba" does not come from babcia, although it might. Babcia is a term of great endearment and babcias are objects of great respect in their families. Baba is a tough old broad that you would be well advised not to cross. Not a term of endearment, but a term of gudging respect of a certain kind nonetheless.

The word "broad" is almost never used in American English anymore. It was always insulting, intentionally so, but commonly used in films by gangsters, hard-boiled detectives, etc and by standup comics. It was rarely used in everyday conversation to the best of my recollection. It went out of fashion during the sixties. Only men of the generation of say Jerry Lewis would continue to use it sometimes. I can't recall ever hearing it used in everyday speech myself.

He's in good company here!

I agree with AJ. I loath masqueraders. especially the ones that don't tell you who they are.

I use broad all the time! That's a very broad street. Or, I'm going to England so I'm traveling a-broad. That broad is looking quite broad today. The most common word we use (in America) for women are "chicks." I've heard "Hootchie" (I'm not sure how to speel that) and "Floozy" before which both are definitely derogotory!

So "chick" it is now? I left Amerca in 1995, so I guess I've missed some of this. I know that on American TV shows I see here, the female characters often refer to themselves as "chicks" as in: yo don't understand, it's a chick thing. Floozie is very old slang, referring to a female of highly questionable morals, and likely a prostitute of some sort. Hussie, or more spectacularly, Brazen Hussie, is much the same thing. I've never hear the word Hootchie used by itself. It is slang from, I think, the 20s or 30s, as in Hootchie Kootchie Girl (or Man). It referred to someone who could cast a spell over you, so it could be either a man or a woman. I suppose saying Hoochie Kootchie could mean "a little sex on the side wink wink." Slang is great. Too bad there is so little of it in modern American English. There seems to be several times as much British slang in common use compared to the pitiful supply available in the U.S.

Mott - old Dublin equivalent of bint. Strange how many derogatory terms there are associated with females: bitch, cow, mare, sow, etc... Why is that?

I was never confused Martin, it's just that unlike everybody else here I resent being referred to as a 'bloke', it has connotations of low IQ in the circles I mix in, not that I'm suggesting I have a high IQ. I've heard individual men being described as 'blokish' by which I think they mean the type of man that some years ago used to be called 'grunt and fart' types, or persons of less than average intelligence. Am I getting to be over sensitive? Is it too much to expect men and women to show a bit of respect toward each other? Am I just plain old fashioned? Does anyone give a s***?

Shelia???

Liana, ain't the Russian 'Babushka'? Meaning 'granny'? Also a term of endearment as far as I remember...

Yes Andrea, think so..babooshka or something. Kate Bush did a song about one didnt she?

Oh yes! So she did! A beautiful and talented girl, that Kate... No relation, thank the Lord, to Insincerity. Sorry, Stormy.

are you sure that kate is not next in line in the bush dynasty? w must be a fan, at least, of those songs...the man with the wild in his eyes...blundering shites...

You them things, them dolls that have one inside the other the other the other etc. They are called Babooshka's. I think they mean mother within mother within mother etc etc etc. Good innit!! Now that ain't a bloke thing is it? I would love to be called a babe. Ain't got no problems with that one. Still can't see the problem with being called a bloke. It's the adjective before that that would mean a thing. You know 'fat bloke', 'nice bloke' etc etc. AJ

PS forget above, I'm kn......d. AJ ]:0

Come on Stormy, if they tell you who they are they aren't masqueraders now are they?

no problem andrea. the nice man in the white coat said I'm almost better. he even untied both my arms tonight so that I could type two handed. he thinks I don't see him watching me through the peep hole. ............I know he is there .....watching watching me with his one eye peeping at me

Not always the case Missi. Check the masquerading Name tag in this post. Should tell you who I am.

Yours silly schoolboy threats do not bother me, nor any of the other abctalers. I suggest you pack up your crayons and colouring books and GET A LIFE, preferably on another planet. AJ :>x e-mailed this to jim hacker alias fruit-and-nut@theplanet.co.uk.

Ladette (aka female equivilant of a Lad)

You little devil!

I too do not like being refered to as a 'bloke'.

So what's your reason? Are you a sensitive soul like me are are you of the contradictory gender?

Forget above it's a DUMMY address, have a message from the system administrator though, giving me the original senders id etc. I have now sent an e-mail to abuse@energis.com with a cc to: thepostmaster@planet.net, who returned my e-mail. After my dinner I shall put the message on the forum. AJ PS I hope everyone has a firewall on their pc's??

Sorry about the stutter!

Download ZoneAlarm, cos its free, and its not a bad one. Everyone should be running sth like this anyway, regardless. get it at:

www.cnet.com

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10105-100-7491491.html sorry get it there

Shelia's all female, mate!

Ok Andrae!

Huh! Rumbled...

Liana my sweet, although Zone Alarm is an ok firewall (for free!) it does cause some problems with other programs, most notably Audiogalaxy. It seems that combinations of certain programs prevent others from working properly, I've had to uninstall it temporarily to get my machine to work at all!