I'll never cease doing it in style by BBF

Fantastic! You should do more live performances, Tim. There's a small section of the London public that would love this kind of thing.

I really liked this. And I agree with David. This poem is prime for the London live poetry circuit.

I'm sure I'm missing something here. I have read this piece a number of times in an effort to understand what attracted the comments that preceed mine. I can't see any style or grace in this piece at all. Yet the first stanza is described as a classic and the rest clearly has it's admirers too. Is this really the sort of poetry that The Live London Circuit welcomes?It reminds me of the sort of writiings seen on the wall in some of the more seedy men's lavatories in London. I know that beauty is said to be in the eye of the beholder but can someone explain? Please.

Succintly put, Jingle! Seems the writing's on the wall - whether in the mens' or the ladies' lavatories - seedy or not.

I thought it was quite amusing BBF, perhaps jingle thinks it reminds her of seedy mens loo's because of the words *gasps* 'foreskin' and 'wanker'. having never actually been in any seedy mens toilets (either in London or any place else) myself I am not at liberty to comment, however, if this is the sort of graffiti i can expect to see in them maybe I should begin frequenting urinals rather than hanging round here reading some of the more repetitive and rather dull submissions whilst waiting for a decent piece like this to come along.

You have disappointed me, BBF. I really admired your comment regarding Jingle's take on your piece - sattire can be an extemely effective tool. I am, therefore, rather at a loss to understand why you chose me to bear the brunt of your obvious displeasure at his remarks and in such a personal way. Why did you not say to him what you said to me? As a woman, I find this rather intriguing. As far as my response to Jingle's comment is concerned, maybe I should explain. Firstly, in no way did I mean to upset you by my remarks and if I did, I unreservedly apologise. As I saw it - you had taken his comments in all good part and retained your dignity and sense of humour - everyone is entitled to their own opinion after all - as long as we don't hurt each other in the process of expressing it, of course. So I was merely endorsing what he said - bearing in mind that some of the best literary works I have ever read have been written on lavatory walls. And as Jingle pointed out - beauty is in the eye of the beholder, i.e. to a bear - a pot of honey is cornucopia and to a dung-beetle - so is a pile of dung! Everything's to do with perspective, I guess. As to the point about someone coming on a thread and saying my work is a load of TOSH..........correct me if I'm wrong, but I think somebody already has, which brings us full circle to the' beauty being in the eye of the beholder' thing again. To answer your question as to whether I would take it in good humour or not, I think I have already given my answer - but then I always have been a rebel and console myself with the knowledge that many of our greatest artists and composers didn't achieve fame until after their demise. In conclusion - as I've said, if I did offend you I'm sorry. I do actually like some of your stuff but it's OK - you don't have to reciprocate. Tina

"To answer your question as to whether I would take it in good humour or not, I think I have already given my answer - but then I always have been a rebel and console myself with the knowledge that many of our greatest artists and composers didn't achieve fame until after their demise." No wonder SSS has such a healthy attitude to criticism. "SSS, I wasn't sure that this sentence works very well..." "Tell it to prosperity, sucker! Just because you're too dumb to appreciate my genius. You wait 'til I'm dead. And famous. Then you'll be sorry." Like I said. Healthy.

Whatever has happened to everyone's sense of humour today! I was joking, at my expense I might add. As I already said, sarcasm can be quite an effective weapon - even though sometimes it is a double-edged sword. Sorry if you didn't understand Spack. And yes - I am well practised or should that be practiced, in taking criticism - if you're such a clutz as me, you would be too. Anyway, as BBF says - enough of this. Each of us who contributes to this site, has their own reasons for doing so. Some want to be famous, some rich, some, simply because they want their voice to be heard and others, because writing is in their heart and soul. In the words of the immortal bard, "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Tina