McDonald's

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Fri, 2004-01-23 10:03

McDonald's

I watched an interesting docu on McDonald's. Apparently profits are down and it really is a dying brand with chains like subway muscling in.

Horrified at the idea of losing McDonalds, an international icon and symbol of my youth I have been supporting the cause by eating in Maccy-Dees every day for the past week (not a single zit yet I'm suprised to say).

Good things about McDonalds

- The food does taste good
- Its cheap, you can get a happy meal (which fills me up for £1.99 far less than a sanwich at the average London Sandwich shop.
- I went to a lot of Kiddies birthday parties in the eighties at Maccy dees, also used to go after the cinema and with mates on the last day of term so it holds lots of happy memories

Bad things about McDonalds

- Often full of families of Pikeys
- Food can be cold
- Bad 3rd world policies. Also never put change into the "help the children" type charity box in McDonalds...don't help them "pretend" to put up this front that they actually care.
- Carries low street cred

so do you eat in McDonalds (be honest)
would you like to see the golden arches stay or go?

Jude

Wed, 2004-01-28 21:39

Flash™©

Look Andrea he did mean nipples.

Mon, 2004-01-26 16:46

Jack

Agree wholeheartedly with sentiments... Capitalism means less choice, though? Been to any supermarkets recently, Dave? (God, I'm starting to sound like some tory little twat, what's wrong with me?)

Mon, 2004-01-26 17:08

jude

I was in Lourdes in 1997 on Pilgrimage with my diocese. The food in our 2/3 * hotel was absolutely vile. I mean really gross. Huge metal pots of unidentifyable liquid with strange objects floating. It made McDonald's food seem like Mana from heaven in comparison. So we set out in search of a McDonalds and found one, even in a holy place of prayer they're cashing in! Still it stopped us starving the week. j

Mon, 2004-01-26 17:18

david floyd

No, capitalism, in a sensibly regulated form means more choice. The problem, in terms of choice, comes when a few big business are allowed to swallow up all the medium sized and small ones and you ultimately end up with what are effectively private monopolies. Supermarkets do offer lots of different varieties, of lots of different things, at just about whatever time of day you want but whether, in terms of choice, they offer more than the more specialised local shops they've put out of business is highly debatable. But, as you may argue, if people wanted local shops they'd buy stuff from them I suppose. It's a bit crap for the people who can't get to a supermarket though. Anyway, I think I've well and truly departed from the McDonalds debate.

Wed, 2004-01-28 23:08

neil_the_auditor

Of course he did, Flash. There comes a point in a man's life when you think twice about anything strenuous and go for the quick and easy instead. That right, George?

Mon, 2004-01-26 17:26

mississippi

Jude, you should know by now, the French don't wash, don't shave and will eat anything they don't actually see a dog piss over.

Mon, 2004-01-26 17:30

1legspider

Could be you ARE wising up, thats what Jack... don't fight it, all that trendy right-on lefty anti-markets nonsense belonged to the Scargill era... Anyway does not make you a Tory but New Labour.

Mon, 2004-01-26 18:19

Jeff Prince

The word 'nuggets' is unpleasant.

Mon, 2004-01-26 19:50

#10

Jack

I can't believe there are people who go into McDonalds and CHOOSE the nuggets. No shortage of fine one-off creations and classics there, yet they think: "What I really need is six dry baby's-testicle sized battered blobs made from green-oozing birds found in some warehouse in Ipswich and subsequently scrubbed with industrial bleach." Still, they know how liven up this dreary feast: a sachet of...wait for it...tomato sauce! *puts thumb and forefinger to lips, and opens them out* Bellisimo! Mama mia, don't, I-a-feeling hungry, ragazzo...

Mon, 2004-01-26 19:59

#11

Le Hox

Eet ees not true what meeseeseeppee say. Dans la belle France we appreciate zee finer sings in life, like escargots avec le dogpiss sauce. Zee McDonalds ees a nasty american invention wiz no taste. No self respecting French chef would serve food wheech can be cooked in less zan 4 hours.

Thu, 2004-01-29 09:59

#12

Ely Whitley

There's nothing quick and easy about nipples. It's like looking after twins, each needs attention and equal care and they just grow before your eyes. Next thing you know the tassles you bought them only yesterday don't fit anymore and they've got teething troubles and a rash!

Thu, 2004-01-29 10:07

#13

1legspider

Have you tried McDonald's new McNipple Quarter Pounders with cream/cheese?

Thu, 2004-01-29 10:12

#14

1legspider

Get your teeth into a BIG NIP... I can just see rhe Ronald McDonald TV campaign... wearing a tit with a cherry on his head.

Thu, 2004-01-29 10:31

#15

Rachel

and a nipple on his nose...

Tue, 2004-01-27 03:49

#16

kevin

A guy called Morgan Spurlock has just made a film which has Macdonalds at the centre of it. When Macdonalds said there food is not unhealthy, and is in fact nutritious he decided to test it out by eating only from Macdonalds for thirty days and filming the experience. The doctors who were monitoring him apparently had a shock at what a diet of Macdonalds does to your body in that time. A link for a review of the film is at It sounds well worth watching but probably will only get shown in London. Anyway, an interesting experiment that all big mac gobblers should go and see if they can fit in the seat :-)

Thu, 2004-01-29 10:58

#17

mississippi

LOL, you are a funny bunch of tits.

Thu, 2004-01-29 11:20

#18

Rachel

No Missi, that's dementia setting in. Happy belated Birthday.

Tue, 2004-01-27 09:29

#19

Buddha

Eat Hollands meat pie and chips for two weeks, and see what that does for yer system, yer bunch of ingrates. Mcdonald's sell salads. And fruit. Try ordering THAT at your local chippie and see what quizzical looks you get.

Tue, 2004-01-27 11:04

#20

david floyd

This McDonalds diet thing is ridiculous. Is anyone, let alone the company themselves, actually seriously suggesting that you could have a healthy diet by only eating their food? A more relevant question would be what, if any, serious harm does occasionally eating this type of food do if eaten as part of a balanced diet (whatever that is)? Millions of people eat at McDonalds, so it's inevitable that many of them have generally unhealthy eating habits but I don't see why one fast food chain should be held responsible for a much wider problem.

Tue, 2004-01-27 11:10

#21

jude

I agree...There is as much fat in a jacket spud loaded with butter and cheese as in a McDonalds. If you ate nothing but Jacket P's or Roast spuds and gravy or anything (except maybe those all inclusive meals with vitimans that astronauts eat), for a few weeks you'd get sick.

Tue, 2004-01-27 11:33

#22

1legspider

Last night I made myself home made beef burgers... courtesy of Tony's recipe above... they were excellent... I am sure that if I had those everyday for the next 3 months my health would suffer... I hate the sort of unbalanced 'research' like the one above that sets out to prove what is clearly a political point... Hate it even more when 'intelligent' people fall for it... Truth is, choice and diversity is good. A little bit of what you like does you no harm.... balance and control is key and at the root of that is personal self esteem and a love of life. There, no other idealogy is required. Or is that too simple a message...

Tue, 2004-01-27 11:34

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Tony Cook

The problem is that macds are promoted as being for children. Obesity in an adult is the adult's responsibility - in a child it's just evil marketing. We need to look at the whole way in which MacDs operate. They refuse trade union rights, they use packaging materials that are pollutants, they sell food that is plainly not good for you and it tastes absolutely disgusting. Why do people still go? It's cheap, it's in your face, it's easy for kids to meet up there, it's a little bit naughty and there's a dodgy clown around. Points one and two are the primary factors. I wouldn't ban them but I would urge everyone to avoid them. It doesn't mormally take long to find a far better alternative for a similiar price - even if it means popping into a shop, buying a roll or a baguette, putting some tomatoes or whatever inside and having a delicious sandwich.

Thu, 2004-01-29 14:36

#24

mississippi

Rachel, why dementia my birthday on this thread?

Tue, 2004-01-27 11:52

#25

Liana

If I wanted a salad, Id go to a bloody salad bar, not a chippy or macdonalds. I tried a greek salad they were doing a while back - man oh man, such a waste of time and money. No surprise to me that some people will swallow anything however...

Thu, 2004-01-29 14:43

#26

Rachel

Boom boom!

Tue, 2004-01-27 12:09

#27

jude

On some Breakfast Tv thing this morning they were saying that a higher %age of ads are aimed at children in UK than anywhere else in Europe. To demonstrate they put a bunch of kiddies in front of the TV then sent them to the supermarket to shop. I switched it off at this point but no doubt they all bought sweets and crisps and so on ... A pointless excericise because there was no control group (ie kids who weren't exposed to the TV before shopping) to show if it was the TV exposure causing this and anyway marketing is a slow process of brand awareness and in kids re-affirmation via the peer group. But McDonalds has ads aimed at adults I'd say more than at kids. And are no worse than other companies eg. Pizza Hut, Sunny Delight, Dairylea and the countless other ads promoting sweet or fatty foods to kids. Not to mention consumer items toys etc. Even the latest Disneyworld Florida Advert which is blatantly trying to get kids to ask Mummy to order the Free Disneyworld promotional video.

Tue, 2004-01-27 12:45

#28

Dan

KFC has better toys, I've still got my spinning Darth Vader head back from when the special editions were out.

Thu, 2004-01-29 15:20

#29

hovis

you know I've heard Big Macs are nothing but a load of deep fried bollox ...

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:10

#30

Wolfgirl®

I have never stepped inside a McDonalds and will never do so. My daughter has been taught to regard the mere symbol as the sign of the beast. How can you love your children feed them that slurry? The milkshakes have powdered potato in them and don't believe all the adverts about hygiene....I have inside information on that score. No, not good cred these days and to hear that their profits have dropped is great. There is one in Paris for Christ's sake - the city of wonderful cuisine. I like decent food. McD has become a monster, an eyesore and a great aid to obesity. (I have a big thing about them, did you spot it?)

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:15

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Tony Cook

Woohee - A MacDonalds free world. What a glorious prospect. I loathe them: they treat their staff like poo, their food is disgusting, they promote obesity in children, they put decent little cafes out of business, they pollute. I have not set food in one for years and do not intend to do so again. Death to MacDonalds.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:16

#32

Mark Brown

What's a Pikey, Jude?

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:16

#33

Flash™©

And they sponsor the IRA.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:17

#34

1legspider

I love burgers... what could be more honest than nice lean meat and a bit of salad slapped in between a couple of buns of bread..... Which is why I almost always find eating at Macdonalds an unsatisfying experience... Yet I still (very occasionally now) go in there... at the behest of children, convenience, a hunger for meat. In preference, I would go to a Burger King although I concede it is not much better. I would like McDonalds to stay and expect they will have to move upmarket and actually produce something decent to survive... I would be happy to pay higher prices. I mean they can hardly move further downmarket can they..

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:19

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jude

wow!!! that thread was a real elctric poker up the botties of the socially conscious! An example of a family of Pikey's is the "Royle Family". You know, slippers with towelling tracksuits, ashtrays overflowing, kids on free school dinners, "chops and chips"...

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:20

#36

Flash™©

A pikey is a Gypsey

Tue, 2004-01-27 15:11

#37

Tony Cook

Jude - I agree. MacDs are no worse than many another company in the advertising respect - but then they are bad in so many other ways as well and you either end up excusing them at every turn or you end up boycotting them. I choose the latter. It's up to every individual how they react.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:21

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chooselife

Is all that we hear about Ronnie's place really true.... or just more of the old fear factor? Sure eating the stuff is likely to turn you into Mr Blobby but supporting the IRA etc?

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:26

#39

jude

...McDonalds is a franchise so I can't see any corruption on floor level. At a higher level yes...but then what corporation isn't! All Power corrupts but Burger power...

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:27

#40

Flash™©

Might have been the IRS...not a lot of difference.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:33

#41

1legspider

Yes, thousands of decent hardworking young people trying to do a difficult job well and being treated like rubbish... by demanding customers. Who then go off and slag them and what they do.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:36

#42

jude

My little brother is assistant manager at McDonalds in his gap year before starting Uni and they pay him £8 per hour this will rise when he hits 21. This is way more than he'd get in most pubs or shops/supermarkets.

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:42

#43

jude

1leg...on your note about wishing they's do some better grub...the Mc Salad range are an example of where they are trying to do this. I kind of disagree. If I wanted a salad I'd go to Pret a Manger (which is part owned by McDonalds so all you McDonald's haters have to buoycot Pret as well). I go to Mc Donalds when I inexplicably crave soggy bread, limp lettuce and a 100% beef pattie! I suppose it makes sense for parents who go to McDonalds to please the kids but don't like burgers and fries themselves. My father is a McDonalds hater and my mum has only ever eaten 1 chip and she said never again so Its only us next generation Eydmann's that are fans!!!!!!!

Fri, 2004-01-23 10:57

#44

1legspider

I dislike their fetid salad stuff in the cheap plastic containers... I think they should should work on their burgers... I don't believe that these days it is more unhealthier than other fast food outlets.... but there is this limpnesss that permeates all their food from the bread, to the meat and sauces. It is as if its food that is designed not to offend 'average' taste buds... So it is just about edible, but hardly stimulatingly tasty... and burgers can be so much better... You are hardly likely to reminisce fondly about what a great McDonalds you have just had! If you want tasty fast food, go to Nandos... They take a bit longer.... costs a bit more... but you end up licking your fingers. Not for wimps tho... wimps go to McDonalds instead.

Fri, 2004-01-23 11:04

#45

jude

You haven't had a real burger until you've been to the states and had a proper steak burger. ...Bread crispy, toasted to perfection, lettuce and onion crunch and fresh and a thick real burger... the closest I've had to a real burger in the UK was this burger joint along the Kings Road but the burger cost me £8.00

Fri, 2004-01-23 13:38

#46

Flash™©

You should pop into an outlet called 'Flamers' and ask for their house special, two quarter pounders,chicken breast and bacon with cheese oozing on top...all the salad and relish you desire.

Fri, 2004-01-23 13:40

#47

chooselife

TGI do a mean burger and Chilli's black pepper burger is pretty good. Agree about Nando's... finger lickin good and no batter required.

Fri, 2004-01-23 14:48

#48

jude

I went to MD's for lunch and had 6 nuggetts. Then I stopped off at benjy's for a salad after browsing the cathedral bookshop for a while.... the nuggettes were a bit **** I have to confess... might go for the mcchicken premiere next time

Fri, 2004-01-23 14:49

#49

jab16

McDonald's is ick-diddly-icious.

Fri, 2004-01-23 14:49

#50

donignacio

When I was in Chicago, they had a McDonald's at the Natural History Museum. I was starved and I was going economical, so I wouldn't eat at that other restaurant place with the $6 sandwiches. Anyway, I had previously given up McDonalds in an effort to lose weight, and it was the first time I ate there probably in 2 years. I didn't like it at all! I remember used to liking that place a lot! But it filled me up ... and it was under $5. It served its purpose.

Thu, 2004-01-29 17:16

#51

Tony Cook

I'd given up on this thread but that last lot of posts really made me laugh.

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