Thou Shalt not be Tied...

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Thou Shalt not be Tied...

Really really insightful article by one of the nuns from the Convent prog!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/06/27/bvconven...

"... there are not many things I find I want, actually." How many of us can say that eh wot!

Don't miss tonights episode Beeb2 9pm

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* "... there are not many things I find I want, actually." How many of us can say that eh wot! * Well I can go at least that far if not better, Jude. I want only one thing, but so far it's eluded me!

 

I love this programme. I'm not a Catholic, and there are many things about their beliefs which don't feel right and I can't accept; but as one of the visitors said, there's an undeniable light inside them (the Poor Clares). It must be frustrating, though, having Victoria and Angela flouting so many of the rules - getting drunk in the prayer hut! Although probably not frustrating, as such, as they have a seemingly fathomless tolerance; but still... All this "negotating" to have more time in bed etc... They are the guests of the nuns; the convent is their home; and they volunteered to be there - they should either follow the routine or admit they can't and bugger off! Good for Deb, though, for sticking up for herself and not going with the group's consensus... :-) * P * :-) ( Read my blog! - www.oddcourgette.blogspot.com )

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I have often thought that, when I reach my late autumn years, I'll join a convent, or perhaps a mission somewhere in a developing country, spending the rest of my days serving God by helping humanity. I'm very attracted to the austere life of a religious order; my only problem is finding an order liberal enough to encompass my views! I'm drawn to Catholicism on some levels, mainly the richness of the rituals and liturgy, but the patriarchal system is deeply repugnant to me. Still, the ability to sacrifice the 'comforts' of the material world in exchange for a fulfilling inner life is something that continues to draw me. The 'trouble', if you can call it that, with half the people who wind up in these kinds of programmes, is that the ones who really NEED the help/succour that is offered, are usually the ones who have the hardest time accepting it. I watched some parts of The Monastery when it was on, and was very moved by the B-movie porn actor (something dodgy like that) who had, literally, a 'religious experience', and was compelled to change his life around entirely. I thought that expressed the most beautiful and fundamental reasons religion exists: to lend depth and meaning to lives which might otherwise be empty.
Some aspects of Catholicism appeal to me… although admittedly not many! The whole sacrificing comforts “in exchange for a fulfilling inner life” idea, though, I also find deeply compelling. Although is this really a Catholic thing, per se, or more a monastic thing? I’d actually say it’s closer to Gnosticism… What is at the heart of the nuns is deeply pure and true and light. People in their situation experience their faith away from the trappings of Catholicism – including the immense wealth and the patriarchy – and whatever the specifics of one’s belief, I think it would be very difficult to find fault with their way of life. I can’t say I could manage it myself, although a period of time in, for example, a Buddhist monastery greatly appeals. I was thinking about something Iona said in the last programme: she was questioning what she had “to look forward to” while in the convent. And it made me think that one of the fundamental aspects of that lifestyle is having nothing to look forward to… but in a good way! I know that I, for one, am all too often guilty of thinking about the next thing I am going to do. Looking forward to the future and not spending enough time just living in the now. Consequently I had a bath, had a bit of a meditate, cleared out my mind of all the thoughts that were swimming around in there and focused on that moment in time and nothing else. And it felt great! For a while afterwards I felt refreshed and at peace… And then I did the washing up… slowly and meditatively… and felt at one with God through the scrubbing of the pots and pans! The porn actor’s transformation was indeed inspirational. Hopefully Angela and Victoria will get more out of it than they seem to be doing so far… :-) * P * :-) ( Read my blog! - www.oddcourgette.blogspot.com )

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The Last episode is on tonight...don't miss!

 

Sad that it's come to an end... :-( However, I have to say that, although I so want it all to be real and genuine and involve genuine spiritual transformation, given that this program has followed the general sort of pattern of various other similar-ish programs before it, I can't help but feel some degree of "is-it-all-a-setup?" type cynicism. Is it possible that this kind of "experiment" can occur without the kind of drama, revelation and histrionics that has been a part of it? Then again, to be Devil's advocate to myself, I suppose, with the BBC's experience in making this sort of program, they would be pretty adept at choosing the sort of participants who would (genuinely) elicit the sort of emotions and happenings that have happened... Well there we are, I've argued myself into believing that it's all real! Will atheist Victoria get anything at all out of it, I wonder...? :-) * P * :-) ( Read my blog! - www.oddcourgette.blogspot.com )

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It isn't a set-up I can assure you... I think the kind of people who agree to go on the show and are selected to are as you say likely to experience the extreme emotions we're seeing...people with 'issues' or who are, as the 'Metro' so accurately observed 'one wafer short of the full communion'. It was TIGER aspect a production company who made the show and then sold it to the beeb incidently. I am also a big believer in the power of healing and radical conversion, even when we open the door but a hair's breadth. I wasn't at all suprised with the contents of the program and the journeys of the participants. That isn't to say Jesus visits and leaves Post-It notes (that was brilliant Peps!) to tell people to become Catholics (I suspect God has very little interest in what religion you affiliate yourself to). What I believe in is a loving God who wants us to become the person He designed us to be and most often that begins with a drastic encounter with oneself. The monastic setting, routine, silence and genuine community provides the space for that encounter. jude "Cacoethes scribendi" http://www.judesworld.net

 

'I am also a big believer in the power of healing and radical conversion, even when we open the door but a hair's breadth.' Hmm... which is also why it's such a shaky basis for changing one's life. Rarely do people come to God through a painstaking process of ratiocination. They're either raised in the faith or they have a spiritual experience where, desperate for something, anything, they yield totally - in effect, saying, 'I can't do this on my own.' The rational framework for God's existence comes afterwards. It seems to me that, although the spiritual power of letting go and living in the moment is quite clear, God and all of Catholicism's creaking antiquities are outmoded distractions.
Rarely do people come to God through a painstaking process of ratiocination. Having studied philosophy and theology and having been raised in a particular faith I've experience of both and feel that they both have their place. When I talk about my radical 180 degree turn (which is the only one I have any right to talk about) I'm not talking about the God of Religion. 'God and all of Catholicism's creaking antiquities are outmoded distractions.' I totally, totally agree . They are outmoded distractions FOR ME. Have no idea about the state of anyone else's spiritual life! Actually I was having a discussion with a friend of mine recently who was explaining his sadness that he didn't get the 'buzz' out of 'liturgy' anymore, but he feels the intense power of God's presence when he lets his imagination run riot with the Sacred Scriptures. I'm pretty much the same at the moment. Perhaps (and I'm just playing with ideas here) there are two levels of deliverence, salvation or conversion if you will. As a metaphor look at the deliverence of the Israelites from Babylon. The first was of just under 50 thousand exiles under Zerubbabel to rebuild the temple. Later, much fewer 4,000-5,000 returned to Jerusalem led by Ezra and the texts concern the spiritual rebuilding. Firstly, the exiles choose to leave. Yet many choose to remain. God never forces anyone to be delivered. The first part of the delivery perhaps represents the arrival at a belief by rational thought, philosophical deduction and/or includes a superficial conversion where we cling onto ritual or dogma. The second wave of the deliverence is perhaps symbolic of that deep experience of faith which simply cannot be reached by a process of painstaking process of ratiocination alone.

 

I felt thoroughly ashamed of Angela and Vic, sneaking off to the pub. These women agreed to live in the convent for 40 days, it isn't too much to ask for them to live by some simple rules put to them by the nuns who so generously opened up their home. As one of the nuns said, they had felt like the convent wasn't their home because of the inconsiderate (although she didn't use that word, she's far too nice) behaviour of the guests. Debbie came in with very obvious wounds to heal and her openess, honesty and willingness made her journey a real pleasure to watch even if her constant snivelling got a bit irritating. Iona impressed me the most in her changing attitude. She seemed a lot more mature towards the end of the 40 days. Vic started to undergo real positive changes as well. Her comment that when she saw the Church as 'persecuting/judging' her (an atheist) really the only one judging/ persecuting was herself, was really insightful. Again, when she didn't react like a difficult teenager when the Gospel/ sermon on divorce came along I was also struck by her evident growing maturity. Angela was the most difficult to watch. Her focus was always on others rather than herself. Giving Debbie the cold shoulder for something that really wasn't any of her business, not telling her why and finally telling her in a 'I know it all, even about you' way was arrogant and unkind. When she talked it over with her mentor she realised the problem wasn't others but herself so again, at least some progress. I want my own nun for a mentor now! I want my own nun which I can keep in the airing cupboard and bring out when I need sage advice!

 

I would also like a Portable Nun. Do you think someone could convince Sony to get on the case? :-) * P * :-) ( Read my blog! - www.oddcourgette.blogspot.com )

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