Road Rage! (of a sort)

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Road Rage! (of a sort)

My colleague has been speaking today about his dad, who recently came off the M42, due to "losing concentration" or "falling asleep at the wheel" or something. He's okay - a little bruised; but it "really stressed him out." Other colleagues have been saying, "God, I expect that really shook him up," etc... but I must admit that I've found it hard to elicit any sympathy...

He could've killed someone! He could've killed numerous people!

So many road deaths are caused by driving whilst tired... When are people going to learn that it just ain't worth it?!

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"When are people going to learn that it just ain't worth it?!" March 24th 2009 at 3.15pm.

 

What wasn't worth it? Presumably your colleague's dad had a compelling reason to drive while tired and wasn't just out for a sunday jaunt in the fine weather. Whenever you drive a car there is a small risk of making a fatal mistake and killing someone, if you are tired that risk increases but it still isn't big, thousands of people drive to work exhausted every monday morning and most will never have an accident.

 

Sometimes you can be on a motorway and the next turn off or service station isn't for another 15 miles and you are suddenly overwhelmed by an all consuming tiredness. Your eyelids are like giant roof tiles, you drift into a kind of wakeful coma and start to fight the hallucinations. What do you do then?
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"What do you do then?" Speed up! Get there as fast as you can!!
Keep a can of Red Bull in the car. ~ www.fabulousmother.com
Slap yourself around the face and sing as loud as you can.
I agree Tony, singing loudly is the most practical solution. It's impossible to sleep when I'm singing. The trouble is the moment I start, everyone in the car knows what's happening and they panic.
Be more aware! My other half is a photographer, who relies on her car to get her to shoots etc. She always has a good think about whether or not she is too tired to drive, and if she is, she'll have a little nap first or travel by some other means. I'm not personally a driver, but should we be so flippant about this, so accepting that sometimes you have to drive when you're tired? I'm not just talking a little bit tired, I'm talking tired enough to actually be in danger of falling asleep, losing concentration, causing a multiple pile-up, potentially killing people. Obviously there's humour to be found in every aspect of life, but generally speaking this is not a laughing matter. * * * Brooosh... you don't allow yourself to get into that situation in the first place! You think about how tired you are before you set off, and at each potential stopping point. Be more aware of what your body's telling you! pe ps oid Blogs! "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

The All New Pepsoid the Second!

Pepsoid, sometimes you can't help it. You have to drive a long distance and despite all your best efforts you are ambushed by an unanticipated, incapacitating fatigue. It's like the life force has been suddenly drained from you. I do as Tony suggests and sing loudly. This is a highly effective strategy, although it can be quite tiring in itself.
I'm just here thinking about the sort of life where you can take odd naps whenever you feel dozy - that would be sweet. The singing loudly thing works. It got me back home a couple of weeks ago when the powers that be unexpectedly closed half the M4 and me two hours late (and extremely tired).

 

My parents live in Scotland. When we drive up, we leave in the early hours when it's still dark, otherwise we spend a fortnight in Birmingham and then I'd have to batter the two whingey kids squabbling in the back and that's difficult to do with one hand on the wheel. I’m not being flippant, just realistic. To truly avoid unfavourable conditions for driving, I’d have to never drive hungry, full, pissed off, happy, empty headed, distracted or hormonal. I’m 42 – I’d never leave the bleeding drive. I lost a close friend and a bunch of acquaintances in a crash. The most likely explanation was the driver of the van they were in had fallen asleep. It was 2am, which is a shit time body clock-wise no matter how rested you are, I expect everyone had fallen asleep in the back of the van, it would’ve been dark, quiet, stretches of motorway can be mesmerising, and if you’re the only one awake… as I said, keep a can of Red Bull in the car. It’s simple but it works. (Singing works too - but if I sing when Dave's in the car, he gets all road-ragey) ~ www.fabulousmother.com
"Brooosh... you don't allow yourself to get into that situation in the first place! You think about how tired you are before you set off, and at each potential stopping point. Be more aware of what your body's telling you!" Unfortunately life isn't that simple. This is just one of many areas where people have to make judgements on the balance of risk and the consequences of not taking that risk. It obviously is unwise to start a long journey when you're literally unable to keep your eyes open but in most cases, it's much less clear cut.

 

Like I said, such defensiveness... :-/ I accept life isn't perfect, but when lives are literally at stake, shouldn't we perhaps regular re-assess to what extent we are doing our best to save them? So many accidents/deaths are caused by this sort of thing, so I don't think we should ever just say, "We're doing the best we can"... * * * "I'm just here thinking about the sort of life where you can take odd naps whenever you feel dozy - that would be sweet." Err... no... my girlfriend doesn't take naps whenever she feels dozy... she works damned hard! But she - as should we all - constantly and frequently thinks about if/when it's possible to take a nap, travel by different means, etc. * * * I could get pretty angry about this, but I'll try to maintain a sense of Zen calm... ...ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... * * * We all just need to try and be more mindful... everyone... no exceptions... Life can be slower... Slowing down can save lives and minds... If you don't believe me, look here! - www.slowdownnow.org * * * pe ps oid Blogs! "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

The All New Pepsoid the Second!

"Err... no... my girlfriend doesn't take naps whenever she feels dozy... she works damned hard! But she - as should we all - constantly and frequently thinks about if/when it's possible to take a nap, travel by different means, etc." Finally we've reached the crux of all your arguments. That the world would be a better place if everyone was more like you and your girlfriend. Congratulations!

 

Do you claim your five pounds? Cheers, Mark

 

I'm confused. Should we 'slow down' like Pepsoid, or 'work damn hard' like his girlfriend?

 

It's clear that Pepsoid is not a driver. If he was, he would know that you are fine one minute and then suddenly that over-riding tiredness hits you. It doesn't give you a warning. It's a driving thing. The vast majority of people pull in as soon as they can and have a nap, a coffee, a walk around or whatever. Stop getting het up about stuff you know not a thing about and get het up about something (a) you can do something about and (b) do it.
Peps, I don’t know why you’re so angry about the responses to your post. Unless, it’s simply that you were hoping for some fellow moral outrage and didn’t get it. The thing is, those of us who drive and particularly those who have been driving for many, many years, will know that, at some point, you are guaranteed to find yourself feeling tired when driving (straight stretches of motorway being the most likely culprit). Surely tips – no matter how trivial they sound – on how to cope when you find yourself in that situation, are far more helpful than simply restating the obvious – that it is inadvisable to drive when sleepy. ~ www.fabulousmother.com
Ah - bit of a repeat of Tony's post there... My mother rang between preview and post. ~ www.fabulousmother.com
Okay, I’ll calm down… :-)))))))) I suppose my anger has stemmed not so much from people not agreeing with me (which, believe it or not, is not what I expect or even hope for – I mean, who would I have to argue with if everyone agreed with me?)… but rather being confronted with what seems to be a wall of defensiveness. Most people probably are pretty responsible drivers, but my comments seem to be being met with a feeling of, “We’re doing the best we can, and what do you know anyway, you non-driver you?” On the first point… On any issues where we are directly responsible for human lives, I don’t think we should ever accept that we are “doing the best we can.” We should constantly re-assess if we could do any better. In fact, I personally believe we should have this approach to any issues which have a moral element. I apologise if I am mistaken and, in fact, you all do constantly re-assess your actions, but the responses above seem to imply otherwise. Secondly… no, I’m not a driver. But am I not allowed to have an opinion on something for which I do not have direct experience? I do potentially have direct experience of the consequences of driving – I could be the victim of a road accident as much as anyone; and I live in a world where I am frequently affected, in different ways, by motor vehicles… Does this not entitle me to express an opinion on how those people behind those wheels should behave? No, I have no direct experience of driving, but I do have experience of feeling suddenly overwhelmed by tiredness. I tend to be of the belief, however, that extreme tiredness doesn’t (generally) suddenly arrive; but rather, we suddenly become aware of it. We may have switched ourselves off from its more gradual appearance, with adrenaline or caffeine or whatever, then, for whatever reason, our bodies suddenly become aware of just how tired we are. Is being in a car such a special, unique experience, that causes our bodies to behave differently than in other circumstances? Please enlighten me if this is the case! My feeling is, however (re 2Lou’s request for tips), that between doing whatever we were doing before driving and getting in the car, we should always take a little time to meditate, close our eyes, slow down our breathing, and make ourselves aware of our bodies. I’d say this should apply not just to driving, but whenever we are about to set off on some task which, if performed when tired, would potentially be dangerous (such as chopping wood, doing a bungee jump, switching on a circular saw or whatever). In a more general sense, I think that consciously being more mindful of our bodies and the messages they are sending us can be beneficial in all sorts of ways. * * * Another thing which seems to have riled/confused one or two people is the mention of my girlfriend! Let me first of all clarify that I think it is entirely possibly to be busy/hard-working and slow. This possibly seems like a contradiction! When I say “slow,” perhaps it would be more accurate/appropriate to say “mindful.” An age-old cliché, which holds a lot of truth, is the adage… More haste, less speed I know from direct experience, and the indirect experience of my other half, that whenever one consciously and mindfully slows down, stops rushing about and stops trying to do so many things at once (multi-tasking? Pft!), one actually gets more done. Perhaps more importantly, the quality of one’s work improves. This may seem like an obvious thing to say, but it is something which, particularly in the workplace, is so frequently ignored. Once again, don’t take my word for it… www.slowdownnow.org. Finally (don’t be too noisy in your sighs of relief!)… Do I believe that if everyone did things like me and my girlfriend, then the world would be a better place? Well… obviously. Or more to the point (because I can’t truly speak for my girlfriend), I believe that if everyone did things how I did them, then the world would be a better place. If I didn’t believe in the way I did things, then I wouldn’t do them that way. Isn’t this a circular argument? Of course, I also absolutely believe in the possibility that I am wrong… pe ps oid Blogs! "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

The All New Pepsoid the Second!

Pepsoid, you can, however, see that you might have been pushing at an open door? I think what you wanted to do was communicate your feelings and emotions about something, but the way you tried to do this was to lecture people about something that they were all aware of anyway. Why not cut out the hectoring and just say how you feel? For example: "I just saw some seagulls covered in oil on the telly. It made me really sad." vs. "I just saw some seagulls covered in oil on the telly. Why do we keep throwing oil in the sea? Maybe if everyone used less oil, then there wouldn't be any need to throw some in the sea. My girlfriend and I use less oil than you. So it's not my fault about the seagulls. It's everyone's fault." If you want to talk about your feelings, TALK ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. For the love of God don't sublimate them into practical arguments. Let them be feelings. You could more usefully feel sadness at the loss of someone than you could campaign for people do something about something that you don't really understand. Cheers, Mark

 

I hate seagulls me. I'd deliberately cover the little bastards in oil out of spite. Not being a driver doesn't bar you from having an opinion on driving. It does, however, devalue that opinion quite a lot.

 

I don't quite understand what you're saying, Mark... Can't a feeling lead to wanting to take practical action, or to suggest action that others might take?... "I feel sad about the seagulls, and this feeling has led me to think we should stop throwing oil in the sea." ...? Maddan... I take your point, but... is my position so different from the vast majority of non-politicians, non-Prime Minsters, etc, commenting on what such folk get up to & should get up to? pe ps oid Blogs! "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

The All New Pepsoid the Second!

Pepsoid, I can see where you're coming from. I can also see how you got it wrong. Maybe think of it more as we're all smokers, and you as someone who has never smoked is saying that we don't need the buzz, you can put a drink down, why can't we quit? Oranges and apples - very different things. The sudden overwhelming tiredness that comes over a driver is like nothing I've had elsewhere. It's partly due to the hypnotic feel of the motorway, and the concentration needed to drive. Add in a little sleepiness, and you're away. If I'm with my husband, we swap. But he's not always there. Just last week, I had to get my daughter to the airport for 5:30. That means I had to wake up at 4, and tart driving by 4:30. As someone who has difficulty getting up at 7, this was tough. Then all the kids were tired and quiet. Nice deep breathing, the M4, and little traffic (I find deliberately weaving around the traffic helps). I'm tired, at one point, I'm fighting sleep, turning up the radio, blasting the air, and singing. Tell me what choice I had? Pull over, and let her miss her flight. You have any idea what my ex would be screaming down the phone? Okay. Idea two - other transport. First, how much would tickets cost to get all three kids and me (husband's away business, and I had to take them all) to Heathrow? I don't know, but I'm guessing around £100 or more for returns. Then the second question, what time do they start at on a Sunday morning? I'm guessing not at 4:30, but I could be wrong. Sometimes, there is no alternative, and you have to take deep breaths, and hope that the eyelids don't get too heavy. Sorry Peps, but you need to experience it to understand.
"Or more to the point (because I can’t truly speak for my girlfriend), I believe that if everyone did things how I did them, then the world would be a better place. If I didn’t believe in the way I did things, then I wouldn’t do them that way. Isn’t this a circular argument?" No, some people do think like that but it's a very particular view of how society and the wider world works. In terms of a guide to practical action, it's pretty redundant thinking unless people are operating in a similar situation to you. Beyond the car stuff, your call for slow living, for example, doesn't offer much to the average Chinese factory worker.

 

I'm not offering it to the average Chinese factory worker! If a philosophy doesn't work for a particular section of society, should that philosophy be abandoned? To simplify... a huge number of deaths on the roads are caused by tiredness. Obviously tiredness can't be eliminated. The crux of my argument is that everyone who gets behind a wheel should never presume that they can't do more to reduce their chances of driving whilst tired. We should never presume we are doing enough. This, I believe, applies to most things in life. I'm getting off this road now... pe ps oid Blogs! "the art of tea" "that's an odd courgette"

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Driving malarky is a dodgy one. Apologies, but I can't be arsed to word it better. You see - we all become entranced while driving - just as we do while watching t.v. What we need is a little gadget on the dashboard that pops-up and screams, "WHOAHH" every 35 minutes. Lorry drivers need to be assessed, though. They work way too many hours. :) When the power of love overcomes the love of power, we'll find peace. - Jimi Hendrix

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Tart driving? I like the sound of that Lisa.

 

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