Conversation: What is going on with the world?

Orifiel. Elohm created human, period. Blacks, Whites, Yellows, Browns, Reds, they are all results of the same experiment. Hebrews, are just another subgroup You focus too much on them as you still seem to make them source of evil, instead of a tool.

You are right with the Nephilim, I mixed them up in names, not in appearance, still they are not the demons described. Most of your national stories have a real event as base, I know, as most will have similar versions in other cultures as well. Many terrible things happened to your, and other, people in the name of 'Elohim' (mostly not on their request), these terrible deeds were done many times from both sides as well, but I do not want to go to deep into that. What I hope is that humanity, as a whole, will face what is coming, and makes the right choice. Not based on greed, not based on fear, not on revenge, but on what is good for all.

@Celticman: It is not question 43 or 44, it is the final question. And the truth is not always what is preached. Everybody has his own version of the truth, it is just a matter of who shouts louder or has the biggest gun.

Orifiel, the civilisations destroyed were the neighbors of the Hebrews in the middle east. Not other planets. It were more city-states in the area. Priests wanted more power so they invented a message from God that the next town has to be destroyed because they worship the wrong Gods (so cannot be controlled). Join us or die The Big Flood, Babylon, Sodom and Gomorra, they were set up intentionally. But then that do humans still with something they think is dangerous for them, don't they? Kill all cows in a region because there is a disease, instead of curing them. Destroy millions of birds to prevent the birdflu (Good they do not do that with each other anymore). Abuse monkeys and rats to test medicine and makeup on, and kill them when finished as they are no longer of use. I have never killed or hurt an animal intentionally, still I am here already a very long time, some kill animals every day, for fun. If I would say to you: "Orifiel, here is a place where you can live with your people", just to keep you all close together and easy to reach. What would you do? Kick everybody else out, even 5000 years later, because someone says that some God told that to his leader? Even if you can never prove or confirm that? No you would not, I may hope. And I would not have said that with the background thought that you can destroy everybody who is already living there. That is totally a local descision. Nothing to blame the Elohim on, be it that they could have prevented it to happen, if they were there, and if they wanted. Do not think Earth is main-stream business in the universe, it is just another colony, left alone in the dark. It is good you say you are ready to face them, as they indeed have something to explain. Do not accept everything said to you just like that. Not by me, not by the government, not by a church, not by Rael, not by the Elohim. Use your own judgement, but try to think without prejudice, remember: One is innocent until proven guilty. And you cannot blame a single person for what his people once did, if you do that you put yourself on the same low level. I am, like Earth, a bit in a 'forgotten' position with my companions here. So be assured we have some things to say as well. My Lady was here for a long time and only left recently (from our point of view), so we are not really without contact.

Earth technology is like pre-stone age technology compared to theirs, you cannot even hurt them if you drop an atom bomb on them, they can wipe this planet out of space in minutes, if they wanted. There is no need to fight them anyway, they mean you no harm. What you have to fight is 'the other side': Those who manipulate governments to get their way, to get more and more power. Those who really control what is happening here. And those who control them. Some have shown their real face already.

You separate while there is no difference, you judge while there is nothing to judge. Nobody is deceiving you, only you. You see only what you want to see, and judge on assumptions. You mix bible, mythology and reality in a way that fits you best. I guess that is your choice. You will know soon enough, as the day is near. They do not threaten anyone, may that be clear. It is the hope that mankind drops its aggression and all the other things that only lead to darkness. As that is the only way to peace. If they do not want peace, humanity can live on, keep killing each other and fighting wars. Keep in mind the Gods do not need you, they only want you to join them as you are their relatives. History only proved that deceptions were made by man, to gain power, to rule over others. Even the Twelve and Seven did, once, to rule over your ancestors, to play with them, as pieces on a chessboard. Were it not Zeus and Hera who fought a battle on the expense of Hercules? Nobody of the Twelve or Seven wants a temple! The priests want temples, to indoctrinate, to plant fear, to make you do what they want. And guess what? You already do.

Actually I do not recall saying anything on Mythodia. It calls for Zeus and Ares, that is it, the Leader of the Twelve and their warlord. It means they think thay have to defend something, or need help in a fight. I may hope they will not be disappointed, as the interests of the Twelve may not be theirs. As you know the US and a number of other countries, including the NASA are not lead by their President, but bij others, who are not always working in the interest of the world, but more of themselves, their money and power hunger. The Twelve will only think in the interest of Earth and how that fits in their universe. They will, without any doubt, join my Lady in Her struggle as Her interest is theirs. Yahweh and the Seven will have to cooperate, they messed up more as enough. The Elohim have not much to do with this, they are old, and human was created by them long before they were put on earth. Rael tells is like he does because everybody wants to hear his planet is the centre and most important of the universe, makes them feel good. The DNA patterns have been used on many worlds to spread mankind, only here it went a little bit wrong somewhere, possibly because of some native DNA that was used to make them able to live here. Humanoids are known to be aggressive, this is normally successfully surpressed, but not here.

About the Elohim: The Elohim have nothing to say about what happens to humankind. They are no longer the scientists who can kill a lab specimen when it no longer does what they want. They do exactly what the priests on Earth said for the past 10000 years:'Obey me, see only me as God, and you will be fine Worship another God, or do not live the way I tell you to live, you will be cursed/burn in Hell'. Does it seem familiar? A rule based on fear is not good, that is one of the mistakes Yah made as well. They will try to cause fear (actually they are already doing this), disorder, and war. Divide and rule. You have to look through the events in the past years to see what is really going on. See them as a chess game. Move forward, block, sacrifice, win.

Orifiel, I call them 'Gods' because that is the most commonly used name for them on Earth, if you want me to call them different I can call them just 'The Twelve', or by their names, but I still mean the same group. They are no Gods for me so I don't care how to call them. I do not see why you disagree with me, it may be that our english skills are not enough to make you understand the meaning of my words (no offense). What I am trying to explain to you is: The fear and terror you talk about are created by the religions/Priesthood, not by the Twelve or the Seven. Actually I do not care a bit about what the Jews/Moslims/Christian/any other religion/Rael write in their books to scare people with. The 'Gods' do not rule by fear, but by mutual respect, they are a collective, so important descisions are made in the most democratic way possible: by all. Less important things are made by a smaller group, or even by local staff, it is not useful to engage millions to decide on a local thing. If the leaders lose credit due to abuse of rights they disappear from leadership. To enforce rules: What really will happen is that, if you commit a crime, or do not follow the rules, you are called in, and have to clarify this, if the clarification is approved nothing will happen and you will get out with a warning, if you can not explain and it is rejected you are kicked back to Earth to retry, until you do it right. There are other means of course, but this is the most common one. Only when it looks like something goes terribly wrong they might use psychological means. Violence would be the latest resource. Zeus himself violated laws by creating children by Earth women, which was much discussed in those days, and he still suffers the consequences. Fortunately for him the Twelve are not so strict in this as the Seven, where it is seen as a very serious crime. You called your Gods DNA technicians yourself once, and you you call these Elohim DNA techs beasts, even while your Gods use their techniques? Is this only because one man (Rael) tells this in his book? He tells you he speaks on behalf of the 'Gods'/Elohim/Reallians/whatever, does that not sound familiar to you? Mind you: I am not defending the Elohim, nor speaking on their behalf. I do not stand for their methods their philosophy or their words. Their Gen techniques are commonly used, else you would not be here, but that would not mean they have anything to say on you. What the Gods brought to Earth was basically good, but still the priests between you and the Gods interpreted their words in such a way they had advantage on it.

I was talking abour our english, not just yours, I depend on the skills of my channel, and English is not his mother language. So it is not easy to explain something clear enough for everybody to understand. But I will try I said the 'gods' are the creators of mankind, nothing more, nothing less. If these are the Seven or the Twelve, that is irrelevant as it was a joint effort, there were a number of tribes planted, each in their own biosphere. Everybody living now on Earth evolved from one of these tribes, each tribe had its own 'manager' (not the proper word, but it the first I came up with, you can call it God, if you want), each tribe got its own training and development, some better as others. There is no tribe that came later. Three tribes, Your tribe, coming from around Iraq, the tribe that lives now in China, and the one in Northern Africa received the most advanced training, do not ask me why, it was decided. When one of the colonies (I will not go in to which one) broke the rules, the experiment was cancelled. They were released in the world, as they were still seen as promising, to continue development on their own. I was there, I was assigned as a guardian for one of the Biospheres. The Seven were assigned to control the planet and keep track of progress. This because they were best equipped for the task. The Twelve were present as well, their representatives controlled the tribes that came from Iraq and the North African one. But overall control was for the Seven. At one moment the commander of the Seven decided that external influences were bad for the inhabitants of the planet and he started a process to move all other 'colleagues' out, he wanted to be the single ruler, so called to 'simplify management'. The last one to leave was his own sister, with who he co-existed in all regions he controlled, she also had great influence in all other regions. Her kindness and concern about the humans was praised all over. To prevent the humans to think back to the old times, he figured out a plan to demonise them, make them look bad. It worked, but he never managed to get rid of all memories. We were left here by his Sister to protect her interests until She returns, which we still do. We protect Her followers, Her remembrance and develop awareness. The Elohim think they 'own' their creation, like a patent, and that they can do with it whatever they want. They might own the original blueprint, but have nothing to say about it once it is used. About being Gods or not. Nobody said they were Gods, that was invented by humanity, they see creatures looking like them, but still different, doing things they have no clue about how they are done. If you have no electricity, how do you explain a lamp? If you never heard about an airplane, or a spaceship, how would you explain it when you see one? The first White people coming to tribes deep in the Amazone region who were still in the stone age less as 50 years ago, were thought to be Gods. They come in the belly of a big bird, and kill prey on hundreds of steps distance with thunder coming from their hands. They can make a light in a cage go on from a distance, they use fire coming form their hands to light a campfire. They can take your soul by pointing the evil eye at you, and then capture it on a piece of flexible white stuff. They look like the ancient Gods that our ancestors talked about, white, and round blue eyes. They must be Gods, what else can they be? It happened the locals carried grass to the plane to feed it. It is just what you believe in. About me being real. I already told a few times I am no Angel, Angels are from Yah, I am not. I was created by his Sister. My name is not Areo, I said I can be called that way, I have no name as such, no Angel, Guard or Protector has a name, we are instruments. The known names were invented by humans as well, but it comes closest to how I am 'called'. If you think of someone in your mind, you do not think his name, you see an image of the person, which you associate with the name. So Areo I am for you, my 'mental image' is not for anybody to know as it will make me appear instantly next to the caller. As what happens to Angels as well. I am unable to lie, that is against my nature, so I do not understand the word 'deceive' in this context. I cannot deceive, it will burn me. I have no interest in the Elohim or what happens to them, they will get what they deserve. I have no interest in the Twelve or the Seven, I only live in the interest of my creator. Her interest is the well-being of humanity, so that is mine as well. I will do anything in my power and within the law to protect Her interest. Nephilim are creatures that were the result of a mix between Angels and humans, as that combination on a unaware planet is not allowed, even criminal, they were almost all rounded up and 'removed'. They were originally no danger, but if you see all your brothers and sisters being removed for something they cannot help, you will not stay friendly.

This is from the Channel of Areo Look, I do not know if She (definitely a 'She') is Areo, just like I do not know if you are who you say you are, you can say a lot, but I still have to believe you on your word, don't I?. I asked her name once, as you should when you are in contact like this, the image I got in my mind and the sound were 'Areo', and that is how she said I should call her. I have a 'good feeling' when I am in contact, warm, protected, like my mother is standing behind me, holding my hands to help me writing, I feel only deep love coming from her. Only once I felt anger and helplessness, that was during the Events in Egypt, I understood she was not allowed to interfere, which caused some frustration. Until now all she wrote somehow 'fits' with what I found out later, and what she wrote earlier. Things I thought were non sense, were explained months later, by other sources, or in her writing. She writes about things I have no clue about, I am not religious at all, and my theological knowledge is not that good. Hence I have to verify things sometimes by looking them up. (Yes, even I do not take all she tells for granted). What I found out about Areo more or less fits with the ideas I already had on her, even that near death experience I found, typical her way to act. Anyway, you believe what you want, or not, that is up to you. I think you have a lot of hatred in your mind, which is not always good, as it colors your actions. I am open minded, that is probably the reason Areo has chosen me, for me is everybody equal, only the deeds are important, in the end. ps: I think Rael talks a lot of rubbish, that is my opinion, he is putting a new 'church' together it seems, so just the same old story. Areo does not want to say that, but I do.

"Oh yes its me, I am not a channeler to let others speak through me.. I am all me.. in flesh and bones.. " yes, but are you who you say you are? I know you are not. :-) When I log on as Areo I am Areo, are you Orifiel? I am very sure you are not. Do not say Elohim is a bad side of my race, as they are not my race, they are just as much my race as yours. I cannot be insulted, but if I could you would have done that by saying I am the same race as the Elohim. "Then tell me, why my beloved angel, always will tell me his name?" If Your angel Mi-ke'el ('Who is like God') would say his name you would not understand it, as your brain is not able to receive the sign yet. Like, if you have no ears, how would you hear a voice? If you would understand, and were able to 'say' his name, he would appear instantly next to you, regardless where he was before. So he tells you,like all angels, the name he is known by on Earth: Michael, when you think of him, you will see his image in your mind, that will be enough for him to know you think of him, but it is still not his Angelic name, so he can come when he feels for it. The same with Lucifer (Light Bearer), also an Angel, if you could pronounce his Angelic name, he would be next to you as well, instantly. And everybody knows the name Lucifer, so no need to introduce. The same, if you mention his name, or think of him, he knows, depending on how strong you think of him he will come if he pleases to do so, or if he needs you for something. So, if you know the Angelic name, you have power over the Angel or Demon. Most demons were once angels and old demonised gods, so they have angelic names. That is why the name of a demon is important in an exorcism. You can summon him out of its victim. The Exorcism process is not just calling names, the entire process around it is to weaken the demon and to make the exorcist stronger at the same time to prevent the demon taking him over when he is summoned. There is also a lot of acting around it, a good and strong medium can banish a demon as well, without the candles and stuff, just by using arguments, unfortunately a priest is no medium. Nephilim (the fallen ones) are called demons by God because they are the result of a crime, but only on a planet where it is seen as a crime to mate with locals. And it were no Elohim who made the Nephilim with humans, it were Angels, called beney ha'elohim which is hebrew for: the 'sons of God', mostly referred to as the 'Creatures from heaven'. I guess your mistake comes from that name.. the single word 'Elohim' translates to ''Gods'. Why are you here? You are most probably here because your soul wanted to learn something, once it has done that it will return to the light. Souls are there to learn and evolve by learning, a soul wants to know how it is to be killed (for instance), it discusses this with other souls and they decide to help each other, possibly another one wants to know how it is to kill someone.So they help each other. When they succeed they return and go for the next study. You will know when you are back in the light, but as long as you are here your entire life will be the way to the experience. Why do you stay here? I do not know, I assume you are not finished yet. Basically you were a creation of your father and mother, humans can reproduce very well without gods.. But I guess that is not what you meant with your question about your creators. I will try to give an answer with an example: The fact that Edison invented the lamp does not mean he made every lamp that existed, it just means he invented the first one . It also does not mean he owns every lamp, or that he has anything to say about lamps in general. The seven heavens are just a number of planets, if you have the means to move around you can move wherever you want. You can even move today if you know where to find the gate.

Actually the demi-gods (the result of a mix of Gods and humans) are more or less Nephilim as well. Extreme strong, tall, and capable of doing special things. Goliath was one, Heracles, Gilgamesh, Garuda, Orpheus. Be it that they were not made by Angels (beney ha'elohim) but by Gods (Elohim). Even Gods are subject of the law, be it different ones as others, so these mixes were not seen as demons. There was not for nothing such a commotion between the gods about the children of Zeus.